MU.LAB Unlimited

[ravasb]

I rechecked your posts in this topic, but can't find your concrete questions.
Sorry if i'm missing something. If i know what you're looking for, maybe i can help.

I don't have questions. It looks like you have an excellent product. I just want to try a full version with unlimited tracks, etc.

[MuTools]

MU.LAB FREE is the same as MU.LAB UL except for some quantity limits, cfr http://www.mutools.com/mulab/docs/intro ... free-xt-ul

So what's wrong with MU.LAB FREE to check whether it fits your workflow?
If the workflow is ok, then you can push the quantities by purchasing a MU.LAB XT or MU.LAB UL User License. By purchasing a MU.LAB User License you also support the further development of MU.LAB.

[sorohanro]

I just want to try a full version with unlimited tracks, etc.

I made my album with the free version of Mu.Lab 2 (was limited at 6 tracks).
The album is a jazz/ fusion, with quite a complex structure. Maybe this fact would answer somehow your concerns.
Here are some tracks http://www.reverbnation.com/tunepak/2741588

[ravasb]

I clearly do not belong here. Thank you for your consideration. I wish you luck with your program . It definitely meets the needs of many users.

[MuTools]

Any concrete reasons?

Edit: Ok, so it seems you really want a demo version (say a save-disabled version) of MU.LAB UL.

I'm sorry but it doesn't exist. The reason is that it would take more version management, which is not efficient.

And another reason is, that i don't see any reason why MU.LAB FREE would not be good as a try-out version.

I tried to catch your reasons but you leave it in the dark, imho.

[ravasb]

Any concrete reasons?

I have other DAWs. Some handle multiple tracks better than others. Some handle multiple VSTs better than others. Some handle rewire really well. Some do not. I just had wanted to see for myself. I do not think I am the only person who really likes to test things out for themselves without having to purchase progressive upgrades. You seem to have model that works for you. I wish you luck. I just need a different approach.

[MuTools]

Thanks for you reply.

(fyi: i edited my previous post, maybe things crossed)

I have other DAWs. Some handle multiple tracks better than others. Some handle multiple VSTs better than others. Some handle rewire really well. Some do not. I just had wanted to see for myself. I do not think I am the only person who really likes to test things out for themselves without having to purchase progressive upgrades.

But that's the whole point. You don't have to buy MU.LAB before you're convinced. You can try out multi-track, multi-VST and ReWire with MU.LAB FREE! Please tell me if i'm missing your point.

NB: I'm not trying to convince you about MU.LAB (that's another topic), i'm just trying to understand why you can't test MU.LAB using MU.LAB FREE.

[janamdo]

OK, it seems to be confusing for the customer..so you must improve this

[liquidsound]

I have other DAWs. Some handle multiple tracks better than others. Some handle multiple VSTs better than others. Some handle rewire really well. Some do not. I just had wanted to see for myself. I do not think I am the only person who really likes to test things out for themselves without having to purchase progressive upgrades. You seem to have model that works for you. I wish you luck. I just need a different approach.

You seems to have enough experience under your belt by the list of other DAWs issues.
I wonder why you are giving up so fast without using your skills under a minor challenge....
That's the spirit of an Musician/Artist!

[MuTools]

OK, it seems to be confusing for the customer..so you must improve this

I can only improve things if i see what's wrong.

If i don't see it from myself, then please enlight me.

That's why i tried to catch ravasb's reason(s).

[ravasb]

OK, it seems to be confusing for the customer..so you must improve this

I can only improve things if i see what's wrong.

If i don't see it from myself, then please enlight me.

That's why i tried to catch ravasb's reason(s).

I promise this will be my last post. You seem like a very decent and responsive guy who is offering a unique approach for demoing your product. You yourself, though, must feel that there is a significant difference in experience between your versions or you would not be charging for them. I am a very old fashioned middle aged guy who really likes to try the full version of things to get a sense of that complete experience.

I completely appreciate your approach and understand you need to do what you need to do in order to minimize piracy and business complexities. I wish you luck in the future and will follow your progress. If you ever offer a full demo I will certainly try it out.

Cheers.

[pljones]

I promise this will be my last post.

Why? People want to hear your input to make MU.LAB better.

You seem like a very decent and responsive guy who is offering a unique approach for demoing your product.

I can't think of two DAW demos that are the same from different manufacturers, so this is unsurprising and pretty unremarkable.

You yourself, though, must feel that there is a significant difference in experience between your versions or you would not be charging for them.

Someone might give you four bottles of water free and say you can have an unlimited number of bottles for a fee. Would you suggest they give you the unlimited number to try out first? Or would you not take the sample and decide if you liked the product on that basis?

I am a very old fashioned middle aged guy who really likes to try the full version of things to get a sense of that complete experience.

Would you be happy with a DAW that interrupted the audio every 15 seconds? Or only let you use it for 10 minutes? Or only played in mono? Or any of the many other demo restrictions? If you want the full product, unfortunately - as you note - economics mean you generally pay for it. The only DAW I can think of that doesn't do this is Reaper and the nag screen at the beginning is annoying enough..!

Unfortunately, it remains a mystery as to what part of MU.LAB's restrictions you feel impacts your ability to try it out.

[sorohanro]

As a solution, I think the best example of what Mu.Lab free can do, is to take a look of projects made by very enthusiastic people, as a demo for it.
There you can hear and see for yourself how it works.
http://www.mutools.com/mulab-demo-sessions.html

That should be pretty convincing.

[janamdo]

I am not agree with you pljones..ravasb want a full working demoversion of Mulab ..and he has completely right..why not?.
Let him do his thing with Mulab with unlimited tracks

[sorohanro]

I am not agree with you pljones..ravasb want a full working demoversion of Mulab ..and he has completely right..why not?.
Let him do his thing with Mulab with unlimited tracks

And who is gonna manage this thing ?
This, as Jo explained earlier, raise many problems from combating piracy point.

I remember a game I liked that got discontinued (I think) and at different points in time they offered 2 different demo versions.
Version 1 was having all levels but was restricted to one week of playing, second was restricted at one level but unlimited time to play.
You just had to install version 1 (to have all the levels) and then over it version 2 (to have the game engine unlimited time) to have a fully functional game.

I''m not saying that this is the intention of who requested this, but this can be one side effect for Jo.
Would you like to see this awesome program waisting to toilet because of this ?
Me, personally, I would like to see Mu.Lab future development. It is my favorite tool (after trying Cakewalk, Cubase, Nuendo, Pro Tools M-Powered, FL, Reason and Reaper).