KVR Audio

bero · Post by **bero** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:19 am

Moe Shinola wrote:Hey, thanks for putting this synth out! It looks cool, lots of potential. I just got what I'm assuming is the newest build and trying it out in Energy XT 2.5, but getting the same problem as before, namely that presets will load, but there's no sound. The .fxb bank won't load from the synth GUI, I have to use XT's loader, then the synth changes color to sort of copper and I can change presets, but no sound. Then I tried the multi-out version and got a "getbuffer failed" error, and there was no audio or MIDI and I had to reboot my laptop. I'm looking forward to good times soon playing this synth, and thanks again.

New beta build is online, which contains a workaround bugfix for energyXT.

A.M. Gold · Post by **A.M. Gold** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:52 am

This looks interesting. Any presets in the works?

bero · Post by **bero** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:11 am

A.M. Gold wrote:This looks interesting. Any presets in the works?

See DamnColdWinter.fxb in the ZIP

I'll make more presets in the next time.

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:35 pm

bero wrote:
V'ger wrote:Switching between presets causes the synth to stutter and can take several seconds to do, and the preset number to channel is very unusual and not ideal.
What do you mean with switiching? Loading a preset from a FXP file? Loading a bank from a FXB file? Change the program patch number of a MIDI channel? etc.?

I meant switching presets within a bank inside the synth using the back and forward buttons.

bero wrote:
V'ger wrote:Imo it should be the other way around: Choose a channel and set preset to that, but not set with a button click like now, just automatically loaded as you browse. Preferably from a big preset browser or list window. But still with the option to cycle through the list with arrows.
Maybe together with a optional "set immediately"-checkbox, so that the from-you-wished feature is optional?

An option like that would not be necessary with a nice big browser window. And honestly, a browser is imho really a big key to VSTs becoming likeable or not, especially multitimbral synths like yours where the host like Reaper will not automatically put the patches of a bank in a nice list which you can scroll with a mouse wheel or open to see pages of.

bero wrote:New beta build is online, with a second VSTi plugin variant called BR808MultiOutput.dll with 17 stereo output channels (with 1 master sum stereo + 16 stereo midi channels) !

Wow nice, thanks

I can't find any option to set each channel to an output, but I prefer anyway to have midi channel 1 to stereo out 1 etc which seems to be hardwired like now so no problem with that.

Only trouble is that with this multi-output version the crackling is back..

A.M. Gold · Post by **A.M. Gold** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:05 pm

bero wrote:
A.M. Gold wrote:This looks interesting. Any presets in the works?
See DamnColdWinter.fxb in the ZIP I'll make more presets in the next time.

Doh! Should have looked there first.

Thanks, I'll check it out!

bero · Post by **bero** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:54 am

New beta build is online. Changes:

* Standard controllers (volume, balance, panninh, expression. and so on) are now 14-bit. But the controller modulation matrix stuff is still 7-bit. If a controller item in the modulation matrix overrides a MSB coarse controller in the 0-31 range, then the corresponding LSB fine controller in the 32-63 range will be ignored. And if a controller item in the modulation matrix overrides a LSB fine controller in the 32-63 range, then the corresponding MSB coarse controller in the 0-31 range will be NOT ignored, but the LSB fine value of this one controller will be then ignored or better said set to zero.
* RPN controllers are processed now (pitchbend coarsedepth/finedepth and so on)
* NRPN controllers are processed now also, but only for the modulation matrix, to have automations with 14-bit resolution!!!
* SysEx messages are processed now
* MIDI tuning standard is supported now, for example for to use in microtonal
music, just intonation, meantone temperament, or other alternative tunings.
* Standard MIDI controllers should be working more now, like it stands in the MIDI standard, incl. poly&omni mode, pedals, allsoundsoff, allnotesoff and so on.
* Tried to optimizing the modulation matrix stuff (because it is multi-workbuffer-stackmachine-based, so it can be maybe a memory i/o bottleneck and can maybe trigger CPU cache misses, what depends on your CPU)
* Some small bugfixes

V'ger: Can you write your system, which CPU with how many MHz do you have? So that I can optimize maybe for that sysreq direction, because I've here a quadcore i7-2630QM in the notebook and a hexacore AMD Phenom II 1090T AM3 in the desktop, with both I've no crickles/clicks/pops/and-so-on here.

mnq0 · Post by **mnq0** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:02 am

Thanks you, bero, for a nice synth!
I have some questions about features.
How to turn on glide? I've tried to place the glide fader on about 1 sec, but there is no effect.
What are Carry, PM/FM Extmode, Centerise, Active Check ticks? What are Phase/Frequency Mul Modulation modes?
Thanks again.
ps: Excuse me for my English.

bero · Post by **bero** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:01 am

mnq0 wrote:Thanks you, bero, for a nice synth!
I have some questions about features.
How to turn on glide? I've tried to place the glide fader on about 1 sec, but there is no effect.
What are Carry, PM/FM Extmode, Centerise, Active Check ticks? What are Phase/Frequency Mul Modulation modes?
Thanks again.
ps: Excuse me for my English.

Carry means "No reset of the current to edited component (ADSR,Env,LFO,etc.) for a new note with the same instrument"

PM/FM Extmode mans "PhaseModulation/FrequencyModulatio extended mode"

Centerise means "0..1 of the component output (ADSR,Env,LFO,etc.) will be scaled to -1..1"

Active Check means "if all the selected components with activated >ActiveCheck< are done (for example ADSR/Env is at the end), the voice can be killed then, to save CPU time"

tinga · Post by **tinga** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:48 pm

Amazing machine, works fine in Jeskola Buzz tracker, microtuning are available via midi, but how we access to alternative tunings?
edit
ok,midi messages,why not a compatibility with scala presets, or a tuner for each 12 semitones, it will be easiest.

robindrieghe · Post by **robindrieghe** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:46 pm

looks interesting,hope there will be a version i can open in FlStudio soon.

bero · Post by **bero** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:26 pm

robindrieghe wrote:looks interesting,hope there will be a version i can open in FlStudio soon.

BR808 works in FL Studio 10. I've tested it myself now some minutes ago with the FL Studio 10 Demotrial.

bero · Post by **bero** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:34 pm

tinga wrote:Amazing machine, works fine in Jeskola Buzz tracker, microtuning are available via midi, but how we access to alternative tunings?
edit
ok,midi messages,why not a compatibility with scala presets, or a tuner for each 12 semitones, it will be easiest.

I've just implemented http://www.midi.org/techspecs/midituning.php / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIDI_Tuning_Standard. So the MIDITuningStandardStuff is SysEx controlled.

Have you a link to the specifications for the scala presets? Because the scala original website seems to be offline for me.

bero · Post by **bero** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:58 pm

A new beta build is online, with a important bugfix, the SSE variant of the osc vol ampifer was buggy (the SSE-less variant of it worked as wished).

tinga · Post by **tinga** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:01 pm

bero wrote:Have you a link to the specifications for the scala presets? Because the scala original website seems to be offline for me.

This link is working.
http://www.huygens-fokker.org/scala/scl_format.html

With Buzz and Polac vst loader, program change doesn't work properly, we have to click manualy the box "set to channel" to have the sound change (on the same midi channel).

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:02 pm

bero wrote:V'ger: Can you write your system, which CPU with how many MHz do you have? So that I can optimize maybe for that sysreq direction, because I've here a quadcore i7-2630QM in the notebook and a hexacore AMD Phenom II 1090T AM3 in the desktop, with both I've no crickles/clicks/pops/and-so-on here.

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.2GHz, 3GB ram, Win XP 32 (SP3). (no overclocking).

BR808 released!