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donato · Post by **donato** » Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:42 pm

I had the upgrade opportunity also and it was just too many sounds to pass on. I've been using it for several days now and I'm having none of the problems people here are complaining about (Mac). Don't know if it's a mac thing or a luck thing.

bftucker · Post by **bftucker** » Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:01 pm

Just wanted to note that since the release of the new Arturia minilab controllers, the older full-size controllers have been much reduced. Even locally:
"Arturia is updating models. We have several 61 key Analog Experience 'The Laboratory" MIDI controllers priced to move at $339.00. These are brand new "in the box" and have full warranty."

Amazon has the same for $377 (free shipping).

Wormhelmet · Post by **Wormhelmet** » Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:11 pm

libertychap wrote:For anyone that has a Minilab - How is the actual hardware rather than the software?

I want to get one to use as a preset maker for RP Predator because it has 16 rotary encoders, but I don't want to buy it if the hardware is shitty.

I asked this too on page 2.

Apparently you are only allowed to talk about the software and its flaws, but cannot comment on the hardware. Maybe a TOS thing....

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:36 pm

aMUSEd wrote:
DHR53 wrote:Geez, I really can't believe anyone would listen to this plugin and say that? Analog Factory has some of MY favorite sounds. Analog Lab adds some of the new instruments like SEM and a lot more presets. Personally, I hear a LOT of songs in there.
Yes I'm pleasantly surprised by the sound quality - I knew I liked the SEM and Prophet but even the earlier ones that a lot of people diss actually sound very nice - I particularly like the CS80 and Arp. I'd like to like the Jupiter too but unfortunately whenever I run through the presets for that it crashes after a few - seems quite unstable that one. I do agree it is pretty buggy though at the moment but the sound quality is making me want to try some of the others now.

SEM V sounds good. I like it too.

It has a specific sonic signature that one can like or not. But thin plastic etc etc

ctype · Post by **ctype** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:11 pm

Picked it up for 25 in their sale thingy and my experience hasn't been great so far. It has some quality sounds and all that but it crashes a lot. I mean to the point where it's almost unusable for me.

Also has anybody had any problems with a lot of the Jupiter 8V sounds being silent?

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:52 pm

libertine1989 wrote:Picked it up for 25 in their sale thingy and my experience hasn't been great so far. It has some quality sounds and all that but it crashes a lot. I mean to the point where it's almost unusable for me.

Also has anybody had any problems with a lot of the Jupiter 8V sounds being silent?

Yes, restarting it seems to fix this temporarily and the sounds that were silent do work after that, at least for a while. In my experience the silent sounds are usually a warning sign a crash is occurring (or perhaps has already commenced). It's the Jupiter that seems to be causing most of the crashes for me.

rod_zero · Post by **rod_zero** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:41 pm

Wormhelmet wrote:
libertychap wrote:For anyone that has a Minilab - How is the actual hardware rather than the software?

I want to get one to use as a preset maker for RP Predator because it has 16 rotary encoders, but I don't want to buy it if the hardware is shitty.
I asked this too on page 2.

Apparently you are only allowed to talk about the software and its flaws, but cannot comment on the hardware. Maybe a TOS thing....

yeah, more comments on the hardware would be welcome.

The Sarge! · Post by **The Sarge!** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:45 pm

I own it and I'm aehm, try not to write the word with p and iss and ed

for me it's a mispurchase!

so many bugs in it, not only in the software also in the controller

when I use NI-Maschine and end the programm and then try to start AnalogLab the MiniLab (Controller) didn't send messages to the software
so I've got to restart my PC for using AnalogLab

and when I then quit AnalogLab the software an runtime-error will be prompted every use and AL is in the task-manager for hours

what the hell is going wrong at Arturia???

in the AL itself many sounds have stopping-problems, that means:
I play an sequence with "dirty_lead" (a nice lead for me) and play and play the sequence (no matter if live or via Cubase) suddenly the sound didn't stop
and for this Arturia made a "PANIC"-icon in the GUI, but this doesn't react! nice...

then there are some presets which cause GUI-errors...
then there are some presers where forgotten to adjust the output-level (greetings from your speakers)

and on and on...

unfortunatelly I've made a pre-order and this arrived the same day when I've seen the demo-version, so I was so mad to install directly the original -> problem is that I now can't return the software...99 Euro in the basket

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:39 pm

Wormhelmet wrote:
libertychap wrote:For anyone that has a Minilab - How is the actual hardware rather than the software?

I want to get one to use as a preset maker for RP Predator because it has 16 rotary encoders, but I don't want to buy it if the hardware is shitty.
I asked this too on page 2.

Apparently you are only allowed to talk about the software and its flaws, but cannot comment on the hardware. Maybe a TOS thing....

The obvious reason, drama aside, is that many people ahve updated the softwre (or at least demo'd it) but not many people have the minilab hardware.

I've been really interested in the MiniLab since it was first shown as a mobile controller. First one I've seen with a real modulation and pitchbend. Good amount of knobs too. Even though putting the knobs into absolute mode seems to be what confused some at the start, I'd also like to hear that the controller itself is working well for regular midi uses.

The Sarge! · Post by **The Sarge!** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:49 pm

the encoders need many rotations to do their job, that means: turning and turning for some small steps...
not that feeling as on NI-Maschine

Wormhelmet · Post by **Wormhelmet** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:44 pm

The Sarge! wrote:the encoders need many rotations to do their job, that means: turning and turning for some small steps...
not that feeling as on NI-Maschine

The encoders on minilab? What software were you using this with, the Arturia software? I'd like to hear how the minilab encoders work on a non Arturia laboratory vst. Like synth1 for instance...

The Sarge! · Post by **The Sarge!** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:41 pm

Wormhelmet wrote:
The Sarge! wrote:the encoders need many rotations to do their job, that means: turning and turning for some small steps...
not that feeling as on NI-Maschine
The encoders on minilab? What software were you using this with, the Arturia software? I'd like to hear how the minilab encoders work on a non Arturia laboratory vst. Like synth1 for instance...

ok, do you a favour

I tried it in Cubase6 with ABL2 as VSTi and it works fine
the only thing that happened twice: deselecting ABL as VSTi in the VSTi-Rack crashes Cubase6 -> never happened before, so there seems to be little trouble with MiniLab + Cubase6 + ABL2

regards,
The Sarge!

PS: ABL2 = AudioRealism BassLine 2

bharris22 · Post by **bharris22** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:24 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote:Had a play with Analog Lab yesterday and it was nothing but pops and clicks. not even usable. I don't think that happened when I had my fireface plugged in but yesterday I was just using macbook pro built-in sound. Pretty discouraging.

I decided to go for the $19 purchase as a Father's Day present for myself, and it is literally unusable. I have tried installing version 1.0 and 1.0.3, neither of which will even open - the system just hangs forever, and starting the Task Manager indicates that Analog Lab is "not responding." I am running a 2-year old Windows 7 system with 8 Gb RAM. This is very frustrating. Has anyone else had trouble even getting the program to run?

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:33 pm

bharris22 wrote:I decided to go for the $19 purchase as a Father's Day present for myself

Nice one

But there is about 30 days to choose from or so, a bit like having a drink anytime of the day under the pretense of it being "5 o'clock somewhere"

Wormhelmet · Post by **Wormhelmet** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:23 pm

The Sarge! wrote:
Wormhelmet wrote:
The Sarge! wrote:the encoders need many rotations to do their job, that means: turning and turning for some small steps...
not that feeling as on NI-Maschine
The encoders on minilab? What software were you using this with, the Arturia software? I'd like to hear how the minilab encoders work on a non Arturia laboratory vst. Like synth1 for instance...
ok, do you a favour
I tried it in Cubase6 with ABL2 as VSTi and it works fine
the only thing that happened twice: deselecting ABL as VSTi in the VSTi-Rack crashes Cubase6 -> never happened before, so there seems to be little trouble with MiniLab + Cubase6 + ABL2

regards,
The Sarge!

PS: ABL2 = AudioRealism BassLine 2

Thanks for the info! I was curious whether the problems seem to be more software only specific, but maybe not just the software.

Arturia Minilab, Analog Lab. Yes or No?