KVR Audio

masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:58 pm

rod_zero wrote:Wanna try Nave ASAP! Looks great.

It is.

Can't wait until it's officially released so everyone can experience the majesty.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:03 pm

I hope Rolf Wöhrmann reminded himself of what he once said about the prices of VST plugins.

He said that he can't understand why VST instruments have to be priced over 100 € and that he thinks that in the future, they will be cheaper. Of course, Waldorf should be in charge of deciding what they want to charge, but hopefully, they don't charge Largo-esque prices for it.

Of course, it's Waldorf, and you pay for the brand name too, but if you take a Blofeld e.g., it's very nicely priced, compared to a Virus TI snow, which almost costs 3 times as much, so it should be possible really. Btw, amazing work for them to not only fix their existing stuff, but also work on new products.

218 · Post by **218** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:11 pm

The new GUIs looks okay, but please tell me you didnt change a thing soundwise?? I love D-pole and Attack and wouldnt mind paying a little for the upgrade to get the new GUIs, IF the sound is excatly the same.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:26 pm

masterhiggins wrote:Is there anything new sound-wise? Or is it just functional updates like a sequencer for attack? I'm wondering if ppgwave 2.2 will replace the PPG 3.v or something? I much prefer the old look that actually resembles a ppgwave.

-Sam

Anyone noticed the additional FXs (at the right) and the SAMPLES button (Osc section) at the new Attack GUI?
The old Attack instead had 3 buttons for Closed HiHat, Open HiHat and Crash Cymbal samples.
Could not give more details now but this should be enough hints at the moment.

PPG Wave 2.2 is no replacement for PPG Wave 3.V and PPG wave 3.v will be still superior in terms of features (and alraedy has a nice GUI IMO). Did i mention that PPG Wave 3.V is one of my favorite synths...

The combination of PPG Wave 3.V, Largo and the new Nave plugin is really powerful and none of them fully replaces the others.

Also Attack (with the old and new version) is playable as a "normal" synth (for those who did not notice yet). With instruments 13-24 (1-12 is for single notes only) you could play instruments polyphonic and/or in a bigger key range using the notes C3 and up (the MIDI channel will then set which instrument is played in the upper part of the keyborad where e.g. Channel 12 is instrument 24 ; ths works with the old and new version of Attack and is found in the manual).

MorpherX · Post by **MorpherX** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:39 pm

I have Waldorf Edition 1 and think that the new GUIs are ugly plastic-like, but this is of course a matter of taste.
I would be interested if there were new features and sounds to Attack and D-Pole.

dayjob · Post by **dayjob** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:49 pm

http://www.waldorf-music.info/nw1-downloads

Wavetable Module for Eurorack

"nw1 is our debut product for the popular Eurorack format. It includes an advanced wavetable engine with independent control of spectral envelope and noisiness – just like Nave."

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:56 pm

The official Waldorf Nave website has a new page for the upcoming PC/Mac plugin (the other pages seem to be from the "old" iOS version):

http://www.waldorf-music.info/nave-vst-au-rtas

Found at the end of that page:

Shipping: approx. 2nd quarter 2015 for 149,00 €

218 · Post by **218** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:20 pm

Ingonator wrote:
masterhiggins wrote:Is there anything new sound-wise? Or is it just functional updates like a sequencer for attack? I'm wondering if ppgwave 2.2 will replace the PPG 3.v or something? I much prefer the old look that actually resembles a ppgwave.

-Sam
Anyone noticed the additional FXs (at the right) and the SAMPLES button (Osc section) at the new Attack GUI?
The old Attack instead had 3 buttons for Closed HiHat, Open HiHat and Crash Cymbal samples.
Could not give more details now but this should be enough hints at the moment.

PPG Wave 2.2 is no replacement for PPG Wave 3.V and PPG wave 3.v will be still superior in terms of features (and alraedy has a nice GUI IMO). Did i mention that PPG Wave 3.V is one of my favorite synths...
The combination of PPG Wave 3.V, Largo and the new Nave plugin is really powerful and none of them fully replaces the others.

Also Attack (with the old and new version) is playable as a "normal" synth (for those who did not notice yet). With instruments 13-24 (1-12 is for single notes only) you could play instruments polyphonic and/or in a bigger key range using the notes C3 and up (the MIDI channel will then set which instrument is played in the upper part of the keyborad where e.g. Channel 12 is instrument 24 ; ths works with the old and new version of Attack and is found in the manual).

Ohh didnt notice. Okay well then its kind of a new product. Im sure some ppl will dig Attack with sample import, I personally dont have any need for that. I'll stick to Waldorf Edition v.1.

rod_zero · Post by **rod_zero** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:27 pm

149 euros, Ouch!

So given this price, if you already had an iPad what would yo do:

Expend the 149 on a audio/midi interface (roland duo capture EX is the cheapest one with both midi and audio) and work with Nave as a hardware synth...

or get the Plug in?

By the way about elicenser: can you sue the soft version all the time and just use the dongle when you reinstall/move around? or once you use the hardware dongle the license can't be moved back to the software elicenser?

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:40 pm

Ha ha ha, good luck with that

"Shipping: approx. 2nd quarter 2015 for 149,00 €"

Why it cost eight times more than the iOS version, oh yeah I forgot, it's a totally different market

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:46 pm

Nave sounds great! I wonder how long of audio files can be imported to make wavetables?

el-bo (formerly ebow) · Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:55 pm

rod_zero wrote:So given this price, if you already had an iPad what would yo do ?

iconnectivity

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:06 pm

It depends on what Nave VS/AU/AAX has to offer compared to the iPad version. AFAIK nobody told it is just a ported version.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:07 pm

Numanoid wrote:Ha ha ha, good luck with that

"Shipping: approx. 2nd quarter 2015 for 149,00 €"

Why it cost eight times more than the iOS version, oh yeah I forgot, it's a totally different market

It is.

Imagine you sell 10 times as much apps as you sell plugins. Comes out the same way then.

Saying that i would have hoped that it'd be 99 €. Well, it probably was unrealistic to hope so...

masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:13 pm

They have frequent 30% off deals, probably twice a year.

Waldorf Music at NAMM 2015: Nave for PC/Mac, Waldorf Edition 2, Attack for iOS, nw1 Eurorack module