Waldorf Music at NAMM 2015: Nave for PC/Mac, Waldorf Edition 2, Attack for iOS, nw1 Eurorack module

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12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany

Post Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:31 am

Hi,

Waldorf Music has published a YouTube video about 4 new products that should be also presented at the Winter NAMM 2015 (that starts on Thursday thsi week):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlpRtODl3R8#t=41

This is from that video:
Brandnew products:
1) Nave VST-AU-RTAS
2) nW1 Wavetable Module for Eurorack systems
3) Attack Drum Synthesizer & Sequencer for iPad
4) Waldorf Edition 2 with new Attack, D-Pole & PPG Wave 2.V
UPDATE:
The new products now also have dedicated pages at the "Products" page/tab of the official website:
http://www.waldorf-music.info/


Another new video about the Nave PC/Mac plugin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HInbyeWoXsI


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UPDATE:
The official Waldorf Nave website has a new page for the upcoming PC/Mac plugin (the other pages seem to be from the "old" iOS version):

http://www.waldorf-music.info/nave-vst-au-rtas

Found at the end of that page:
Shipping: approx. 2nd quarter 2015 for 149,00 €

UPDATE:
I just received a newsletter from Waldorf.

For NAMM there will be another sale:
Largo, PPG Wave 3.V, Waldorf Edition, Lector and all Soundsets will be 30% off during the NAMM show (until January 25). Just visit our online shop and use the following coupon code: NAMM2015
This sale also includes my own "Atmospheric Transients" soundset for PPG Wave 3.V and my "Analog vs Digital" soundset for Blofeld.

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UPDATE with more details about the 4 products:

Other content of the Newsletter:

nw1 Wavetable Module for Eurorack
nw 1 frontnw1 is our debut product for the popular Eurorack format. It includes an advanced wavetable engine with independent control of spectral envelope and noisiness – just like Nave.

Wavetable scanning is cyclic with optional modulation of travel speed, position, spectrum and more. By providing the worshipped Waldorf wavetable set from the classic Microwave and Wave synthesizers, nw1 will enrich your Eurorack modular system as a potently powerful sound source.

link: http://www.waldorf-music.info/nw1-overview


Attack Drums for iOS
We have migrated our virtual drum and percussion synthesizers Attack to the iPad. Its impressive sound engine is cleverly complemented by an integrated 16-step sequencer that is as fun to use as it is useful.

Attack offers 24 instruments – each entirely programmable through a stunning, touch-optimized user interface. Its oscillators are fat, the filter flexible, and envelopes lightning fast.

link: http://www.waldorf-music.info/attack-drums-overview


Nave for VST/AU/AAX
The award-winning Nave has succeeded in changing perceptions of what a serious iOS instrument can be, thanks to unique sounds simply unachievable with any other synthesizer.

We have often been asked when Nave would be available on other platforms. This new Nave brings that notable Nave sound engine to your favourite DAW.
link: http://www.waldorf-music.info/nave-vst-au-rtas


The Waldorf Edition 2
Tellingly, the classic Waldorf Edition has had a visual makeover, but its core values remain unchanged and unchallenged: the holy trinity of inspiring software instruments! Get your groove on with a slamming drum synth providing plenty of powerful percussion voices. Flex your sound-sculpting muscles with a real – and really assertive – Waldorf filter.

The new Waldorf Edition 2 version also brings an exceptionally expanded effects section (with Delay, Equalizer, Drive, Phaser, Flanger, Chorus, and Reverb)
Waldorf Edition 2 will be available 2nd quarter 2015 for 69 €. All owners of a Waldorf Edition will be able to update for 10 € only.

link: http://www.waldorf-music.info/overview- ... -edition-2

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UPDATE (26.01.2015):

Musotalk.tv just published a Preview video of the Nave plugin Beta where Rolf Wöhrmann explains features of the upcoming plugin (this is in german ; length of the video around 32 minutes):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bmRQ3tRf_Y#t=31


Around 12:10 in the video the wavetable editor is shown wher you could edit partials in two dimensions (partials number + waveform number). The "Amount" fader/slider edits the 3rd dimension depending on the edit mode (e.g. "Level" of the partials).
FWIW i already asked for a few additional editing features. Let's see... :)
An exported custom wavetable should be compatible with the Plugin and iPad version and later also with teh nw1 Eurorack module.

In the video Rolf explains that the GUI in the final version should be resizable but this is not implemented yet in the current Beta.

In this video Rolf also mentions that the 24dB LPF is a Moog type and the 12db LPF a Oberheim type filter. This is also new for me.

Rolf also mentions that the CPU use is very low (i could confirm this) which also comes from the fact that the original synth was done for the iPad.

The plugin formats of the final version (like with the recent Waldorf updates for the older plugins) should include eveyrthing including 64-bit/32-bit, VST2, VST3, AU and AAX.

The Windows/OSX plugin includes al 500 patches of the iPAd version and as Rolf mentioned during the Beta maybe a few 100 new patches could be added.

The Spectrum control for the wavetable osc sections (also mentioned in the video around 11:00) could change the harmonic content of the existing wavetable quite dramatically so from a single wavetable or just from a single waveform in the table you could get a bunch of differnt sounds/timbres. That feature also seems to be included with the new nw1 Eurorack module.

Like also mentioned in the video the Copy protection like with e.g. Largo and PPG Wave 3.V is by eLicenser (either USB dongle or soft eLicenser).


Ingo
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Post Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:40 am

Concerning the new plugins i don't think that i and other testers are allowed to post informations that are not officially published by Waldorf yet.

Anyway like te recent updates for the other Waldorf plugins (Largo, PPG Wave 3.V, Waldorf Edition) the final versions of the PC/Mac plugins should be available in all formats including 64-bit, VST2, VST3, AU and AAX.

I also don't know any release dates yet, maybe Waldorf will announce this at NAMM.
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Post Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:25 am

looks really nice. hope the new attack works with ableton live 9.

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Post Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:44 am

audio/fault wrote:looks really nice. hope the new attack works with ableton live 9.
Did you have problems with the old version of Attack (in the last official update for Waldorf Edition) in Live 9? If yes maybe you could send me details via PM.

Concerning possible bugs with the recent official updates for Largo, PPG Wave 3.V or Waldorf Edition (version 1.7.4) you could also post in the dedicated KVR thread:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... &start=735

I am stil collectiong bug repors there while currently i (and others at Waldorf...) am busy with some other stuff at the moment (including the new plugins).


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Post Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:02 am

Really nice!
After all these years, i'm still using the good old Attack in all my Electro productions.
(By the way, i'm using it in LIVE 9 64 bit on OSX 10.8 with no problems since the latest version, before that, there was a bug with registration)

Do you know if it'll be a paid upgrade from Waldorf Edition V1 ?

Thanks

robotmonkey
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Post Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:05 am

Looks good, especially the Waldorf Edition. Never cared much about the Attack, as it had really fiddly knobs, and PPG Wave V2 since the V3 came out. But D-Pole has been part of my workflow for as long as I can remember. Even though latest version fixed the imprecise knob behavior it's still nice to see a bigger UI. Hope they retained serial protection and will have a good upgrade price or otherwise it will be an instapass.

Do not care much about Nave as I have enough synths already.
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Post Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:11 am

Cool! Hopefully they'll have an upgrade path for Waldorf Edition owners.
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Post Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:12 am

robotmonkey wrote:Hope they retained serial protection and will have a good upgrade price or otherwise it will be an instapass.
Protection should not be changed. No details about a price yet (maybe some info will be published during NAMM).
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Post Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:14 am

commuter wrote: Do you know if it'll be a paid upgrade from Waldorf Edition V1 ?


Hopefully details about pricing will be published during NAMM.
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Post Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:28 am

Ingonator wrote:
audio/fault wrote:looks really nice. hope the new attack works with ableton live 9.
Did you have problems with the old version of Attack (in the last official update for Waldorf Edition) in Live 9? If yes maybe you could send me details via PM.
to be honest, i haven't checked with the latest versions of live or attack.
there was a problem between both because, live could only adress 256 automation-parameters while attack had more then 1000. (if i remember correctly). so, maybe it's already fixed. need to try again.

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Post Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:32 am

attack for ipad :love: :love: :love: :love:

used to love that when i first got into music-making

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Post Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:38 am

Those who need some more infos about Nave for PC/Mac could also have a look at the available infos about the iOS version:

http://www.waldorf-music.info/nave-overview
http://www.waldorf-music.info/nave-specific

manual download:
http://www.waldorf-music.info/nave-download

FWIW the Nave iOS version was published in 2013 so it does not "copy" features of thes everal wavetable synths published in 2014. It should be more like the other way around.


There will be some differences in the PC/Mac version, for example the videos in the OP show diffeernces in the GUI.
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Post Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:40 am

Screenshots from that video:

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penguinfromdeep
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Post Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:52 am

Did they upgrade d-pole algorithms? Would be cool if it had 0dfb filters
circuit modeling and 0-dfb filters are cool

Robmobius
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Post Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:01 am

Wow!! Nice one Waldorf team!
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