which CPU to get now for making DIVA and others shine?
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david.beholder david.beholder https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=159839
- KVRAF
- 1914 posts since 13 Sep, 2007
Intel 3930 (6-core) -- never have any hiccups with lovely Diva and Tyrell
I think 3930 and 4930 are already old but LGA 2011 motherboards have PCI and I tested EMU was working. Altho I switched to Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 shortly after upgrade.
Also, water cooling like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product are good for keeping noise down
I think 3930 and 4930 are already old but LGA 2011 motherboards have PCI and I tested EMU was working. Altho I switched to Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 shortly after upgrade.
Also, water cooling like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product are good for keeping noise down
Murderous duck!
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- KVRAF
- 3508 posts since 27 Dec, 2002 from North East England
I can't read German so apologies if I've misinterpreted what I'm seeing, but these look to be game benchmarks where I'd assume the graphics card represents the main bottleneck.Caine123 wrote:just showed that it's not worth to get a skylakecron wrote:Consider waiting for the Skylake i7s to arrive. They're just a month away IIRC, and should give a nice boost in performance compared to the current Haswell/Broadwell architecture.
Consider buying an unlocked chip (chips ending in K - I 'think' Skyake will be keeping this naming convention) and 'overclocking'. I put overclocking in inverted commas as these chips are designed to be overclocked, and Intel's specification makes this clear. I've got an Ivy Bridge i5 overclocked to 4.5 GHz and I'm still well within Intel's specifications with regards to voltages and heat, so there's an argument to be made that I'm not 'overclocking' at all because I'm not exceeding the specification. I'm using a cooler the size of my head which is nice and quiet, but I understand 4 GHz on the stock cooler isn't rare.
http://www.gamestar.de/hardware/prozess ... benchmarks
You're absolutely right that the performance improvements on Skylake haven't turned out to be fantastic though. This link puts the processor through its paces on a variety of workloads, single threaded, multithreaded etc.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/inte ... neration/9
The performance jump is a little underwhelming, but perhaps this will change if developers start taking advantage of the new instruction sets Skylake brings to the table.
There's also the fact that Skylake requires a different motherboard, supports faster RAM etc, and so may be the more futureproof option should you upgrade in the future. On the other hand, Broadwell prices may drop soon as a result, although I didn't find this was the case (in the UK) with Ivy Bridge when Haswell came out.
Nevertheless, Skylake is here, so it's worth thinking about if you're building a machine.
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- KVRian
- 677 posts since 8 Apr, 2012
Will there be any 6 core i7 skylake CPUs ?
if not, i guess the fastest 6 cores / broadwell will remain the better choice.
(please correct me if i'm wrong...)
if not, i guess the fastest 6 cores / broadwell will remain the better choice.
(please correct me if i'm wrong...)
- KVRAF
- 4083 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
Arrested Developer wrote:Will there be any 6 core i7 skylake CPUs ?
if not, i guess the fastest 6 cores / broadwell will remain the better choice.
(please correct me if i'm wrong...)
There will be extreme versions but they are going to be released until next year.
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- KVRian
- 1067 posts since 28 Dec, 2004
Finally my new PC is running (i7 5820k running on 4.40 GHz, 16GB Ram)
It was really difficult to fit the E-MU 1616M PCI with a converter, but after all the hassle it's working fine.
The PC is running with incerdible speed, doing everything fine except Cubase 8 VST performances.
I was able to make Spire, Spectral, Serum soundsets on my Q6600 on Win XP - it was cracling and
i could use only a few voices but worked. On Cubase 5 with HIVE the performance meter doesn't
reached 10%.
On the new PC even Hive can run up to 60%, Serum and Diva still hitting the cracle level - ok i can
play some more pad type voices (6-7).
I am totally underwhelmed with the VST performance. I am checking the Windows CPU meters
and barely reach 10% when Cubase is already cracking.
I started win 8 now i am on Win 10 (i know Steinberg is not supporting yet, but it is just the same
performance like i had on win 8 - no dropouts )
Do you guys have any Windows or Cubase tips on what i can do better?
I am going to install Cubase 5 32bit and curious about the performance meter in there.
I was sure if i run Hive on the new PC, the VST performance meter would show MINUS 90%
Cheers,
Joseph
It was really difficult to fit the E-MU 1616M PCI with a converter, but after all the hassle it's working fine.
The PC is running with incerdible speed, doing everything fine except Cubase 8 VST performances.
I was able to make Spire, Spectral, Serum soundsets on my Q6600 on Win XP - it was cracling and
i could use only a few voices but worked. On Cubase 5 with HIVE the performance meter doesn't
reached 10%.
On the new PC even Hive can run up to 60%, Serum and Diva still hitting the cracle level - ok i can
play some more pad type voices (6-7).
I am totally underwhelmed with the VST performance. I am checking the Windows CPU meters
and barely reach 10% when Cubase is already cracking.
I started win 8 now i am on Win 10 (i know Steinberg is not supporting yet, but it is just the same
performance like i had on win 8 - no dropouts )
Do you guys have any Windows or Cubase tips on what i can do better?
I am going to install Cubase 5 32bit and curious about the performance meter in there.
I was sure if i run Hive on the new PC, the VST performance meter would show MINUS 90%
Cheers,
Joseph
- KVRAF
- 24451 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Core parking is likely enabled, you should disable it (google about disabling that, needs a registry tweak).
Also set Power Options to maximum performance, it might be throttling the CPU.
Also set Power Options to maximum performance, it might be throttling the CPU.
- KVRian
- 1067 posts since 28 Dec, 2004
Thanks ED, I will try Core parking. Power Option is already there i guess.
- KVRAF
- 24451 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Also perhaps check how the CPU holds out with Reaper, for example. As for C8, play with ASIO Guard options?
- KVRian
- 1067 posts since 28 Dec, 2004
You said many times about Reaper i will try it. Also thanks for Asio guard tip! 
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 9675 posts since 5 Aug, 2009
i didnt follow this topic lately, pardon me 
im planning to get a new setup in october, did anything change so far? i wanna pay for a cpu $300 - (if it really is a great value!) $500
im planning to get a new setup in october, did anything change so far? i wanna pay for a cpu $300 - (if it really is a great value!) $500
DAW FL Studio Audio Interface Focusrite Scarlett 1st Gen 2i2 CPU Intel i7-7700K 4.20 GHz, RAM 32 GB Dual-Channel DDR4 @2400MHz Corsair Vengeance. MB Asus Prime Z270-K, GPU Gainward 1070 GTX GS 8GB NT Be Quiet DP 550W OS Win10 64Bit
- KVRAF
- 24451 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Check out i7-4790K.
- KVRist
- 173 posts since 15 Aug, 2014
Yesterday I worked on Intel I7-6700K (not on diva but other synths) and it was very ☀☼shining☼☀
But of course it depends on more factors (ssd , ram , motherboard , keeping the processor at low temperatures ect.)
And of course it sounds different from monitor to other monitor and also from audio interface to other audio interface
But of course it depends on more factors (ssd , ram , motherboard , keeping the processor at low temperatures ect.)
And of course it sounds different from monitor to other monitor and also from audio interface to other audio interface
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- Banned
- 3889 posts since 3 Feb, 2010
x1 Using this for almost a year, no struggle.EvilDragon wrote:Check out i7-4790K.
- KVRAF
- 6207 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
Disable WiFi and Ethernet?hollo wrote:Finally my new PC is running (i7 5820k running on 4.40 GHz, 16GB Ram)
It was really difficult to fit the E-MU 1616M PCI with a converter, but after all the hassle it's working fine.
The PC is running with incerdible speed, doing everything fine except Cubase 8 VST performances.
I was able to make Spire, Spectral, Serum soundsets on my Q6600 on Win XP - it was cracling and
i could use only a few voices but worked. On Cubase 5 with HIVE the performance meter doesn't
reached 10%.
On the new PC even Hive can run up to 60%, Serum and Diva still hitting the cracle level - ok i can
play some more pad type voices (6-7).
I am totally underwhelmed with the VST performance. I am checking the Windows CPU meters
and barely reach 10% when Cubase is already cracking.
I started win 8 now i am on Win 10 (i know Steinberg is not supporting yet, but it is just the same
performance like i had on win 8 - no dropouts )
Do you guys have any Windows or Cubase tips on what i can do better?
I am going to install Cubase 5 32bit and curious about the performance meter in there.
I was sure if i run Hive on the new PC, the VST performance meter would show MINUS 90%![]()
Cheers,
Joseph
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some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
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- KVRAF
- 1594 posts since 16 Jan, 2010 from Denver
Id also say go with this one. Im still using a 2600k (which me and my friends that own one see lasting at least another 2-3 years even though its already over 4). IMHO the 4790k is basically another 2600k. The skylakes have yet to show any noticeable improvement over the 4790k in any benchmark. So for the money the 4790 is probably the best one you could get at this point and should last you a good long time. The only reason to go skylake is more if you want to future proof your motherboard chipset as that is where the real enhancements have come so farthemachinelt wrote:x1 Using this for almost a year, no struggle.EvilDragon wrote:Check out i7-4790K.
