Quantum Music IS COMING

[OBYONETAOPY]

I value your opinions Guys, you seem so intelligent, so beautifull, your words sounding like chimes in the wind during a nice sunset on the Niagara Falls

but

There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold
And she's buying a stairway to heaven
When she gets there she knows, if the stores are all closed
With a word she can get what she came for
Ooh, ooh, and she's buying a stairway to heaven

There's a sign on the wall but she wants to be sure
'Cause you know sometimes words have two meanings
In a tree by the brook, there's a songbird who sings
Sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiven
Ooh, it makes me wonder
Ooh, it makes me wonder

There's a feeling I get when I look to the west
And my spirit is crying for leaving
In my thoughts I have seen rings of smoke through the trees
And the voices of those who stand looking
Ooh, it makes me wonder
Ooh, it really makes me wonder

And it's whispered that soon if we all call the tune
Then the piper will lead us to reason
And a new day will dawn for those who stand long
And the forests will echo with laughter

If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't be alarmed now

It's just a spring clean for the May queen
Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run
There's still time to change the road you're on
And it makes me wonder

Your head is humming and it won't go, in case you don't know
The piper's calling you to join him
Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow and did you know
Your stairway lies on the whispering wind ?

And as we wind on down the road
Our shadows taller than our soul
There walks a lady we all know
Who shines white light and wants to show
How everything still turns to gold

And if you listen very hard
The tune will come to you at last
When all are one and one is all, yeah
To be a rock and not to roll

And she's buying a stairway to heaven

Source Artist: Led Zeppelin Album: Led Zeppelin IV

AND it makes me wonder, What is this QUANTUM NOTHING out of which any musics arise in our something creation ????

[Doug1978]

[whyterabbyt]

[sqigls]

most boring thread EVER

[murnau]

most boring thread EVER

No surprise really.

[Sampleconstruct]

Master of copy/paste.

[deastman]

Master of copy/paste.

Come on man, you just have to feel the quarks. Don't give me all that book learning. You're part of the establishment keeping us poor 99% down. I just want to be a naive artist with no influences. Now let me quote from quantum theory and Led Zep.

[Sampleconstruct]

Master of copy/paste.

Come on man, you just have to feel the quarks. Don't give me all that book learning. You're part of the establishment keeping us poor 99% down. I just want to be a naive artist with no influences. Now let me quote from quantum theory and Led Zep.

Our present ideas about the motion of bodies date back to Galileo and Newton. Before them people believed Aristotle, who said that the natural state of a body was to be at rest and that it moved only if driven by a force or impulse. It followed that a heavy body should fall faster than a light one, because it would have a greater pull toward the earth.
The Aristotelian tradition also held that one could work out all the laws that govern the universe by pure thought: it was not necessary to check by observation. So no one until Galileo bothered to see whether bodies of different weight did in fact fall at different speeds. It is said that Galileo demonstrated that Aristotle’s belief was false by dropping weights from the leaning tower of Pisa. The story is almost certainly untrue, but Galileo did do something equivalent: he rolled balls of different weights down a smooth slope. The situation is similar to that of heavy bodies falling vertically, but it is easier to observe because the Speeds are smaller. Galileo’s measurements indicated that each body increased its speed at the same rate, no matter what its weight. For example, if you let go of a ball on a slope that drops by one meter for every ten meters you go along, the ball will be traveling down the slope at a speed of about one meter per second after one second, two meters per second after two seconds, and so on, however heavy the ball. Of course a lead weight would fall faster than a feather, but that is only because a feather is slowed down by air resistance. If one drops two bodies that don’t have much air resistance, such as two different lead weights, they fall at the same rate. On the moon, where there is no air to slow things down, the astronaut David R. Scott performed the feather and lead weight experiment and found that indeed they did hit the ground at the same time.
Galileo’s measurements were used by Newton as the basis of his laws of motion. In Galileo’s experiments, as a body rolled down the slope it was always acted on by the same force (its weight), and the effect was to make it constantly speed up. This showed that the real effect of a force is always to change the speed of a body, rather than just to set it moving, as was previously thought. It also meant that whenever a body is not acted on by any force, it will keep on moving in a straight line at the same speed. This idea was first stated explicitly in Newton’s Principia Mathematica, published in 1687, and is known as Newton’s first law. What happens to a body when a force does act on it is given by Newton’s second law. This states that the body will accelerate, or change its speed, at a rate that is proportional to the force. (For example, the acceleration is twice as great if the force is twice as great.) The acceleration is also smaller the greater the mass (or quantity of matter) of the body. (The same force acting on a body of twice the mass will produce half the acceleration.) A familiar example is provided by a car: the more powerful the engine, the greater the acceleration, but the heavier the car, the smaller the acceleration for the same engine. In addition to his laws of motion, Newton discovered a law to describe the force of gravity, which states that every body attracts every other body with a force that is proportional to the mass of each body. Thus the force between two bodies would be twice as strong if one of the bodies (say, body A) had its mass doubled. This is what you might expect because one could think of the new body A as being made of two bodies with the original mass. Each would attract body B with the original force. Thus the total force between A and B would be twice the original force. And if, say, one of the bodies had twice the mass, and the other had three times the mass, then the force would be six times as strong. One can now see why all bodies fall at the same rate: a body of twice the weight will have twice the force of gravity pulling it down, but it will also have twice the mass. According to Newton’s second law, these two effects will exactly cancel each other, so the acceleration will be the same in all cases.
Newton’s law of gravity also tells us that the farther apart the bodies, the smaller the force. Newton’s law of gravity says that the gravitational attraction of a star is exactly one quarter that of a similar star at half the distance. This law predicts the orbits of the earth, the moon, and the planets with great accuracy. If the law were that the gravitational attraction of a star went down faster or increased more rapidly with distance, the orbits of the planets would not be elliptical, they would either spiral in to the sun or escape from the sun.
The big difference between the ideas of Aristotle and those of Galileo and Newton is that Aristotle believed in a preferred state of rest, which any body would take up if it were not driven by some force Or impulse. In particular, he thought that the earth was at rest. But it follows from Newton’s laws that there is no unique standard of rest. One could equally well say that body A was at rest and body B was moving at constant speed with respect to body A, or that body B was at rest and body A was moving. For example, if one sets aside for a moment the rotation of the earth and its orbit round the sun, one could say that the earth was at rest and that a train on it was traveling north at ninety miles per hour or that the train was at rest and the earth was moving south at ninety miles per hour. If one carried out experiments with moving bodies on the train, all Newton’s laws would still hold. For instance, playing Ping-Pong on the train, one would find that the ball obeyed Newton’s laws just like a ball on a table by the track. So there is no way to tell whether it is the train or the earth that is moving.

Oops, sorry, wrong thread...

[Aleatoriac]

If you have an Axe FX you can already make Quantum music

[murnau]

I'm waiting for a prime numbers thread i think it's long overdue or at least something with telekinesis maybe?

[jacqueslacouth]

Sigh, I did my degree in Physics. Left Uni thinking that physicists were just basically making shit up to maintain tenure using the king's new coat approach. Went off and taught physics for the next 25 years, never really believed a word of it nor actually saw the point of it. Woke up one morning and thought to myself..."WTF, I've been living my life as a geek!", quit my job, got some new tattoos and piercings (at nearly 50 I might add) and settled for being a starving musician who couldn't give a rats arse about quantum theory then I wake up this morning and waste 10 minutes of my life reading this twaddle.....I really have too much time on my hands.

Anyways, it's 4am here so off to check the dumpsters for food that isn't too spoiled.

[trimph1]

What is this quantum mechanics stuff?

Another option for delusional thinking?

[jancivil]

"Nothing exists except atoms and empty space. All else is opinion." That sounds so good to you that it, without another consideration whatsoever, it makes your opinion, your misapprehension of the material you pasted in here as good as anything factual or reasoned, as good as anything, doesn't it.

Well, even in Ancient Greece Democritus' hypothesis on empty space was a reaction to Parmenides and "You say there is a void. Therefore the void is not nothing; therefore there is not the void." The atomists proceeded from the idea that movement requires this void, agreeing with Parmenides (and Zeno, who liked to pose paradoxes and is said to have been the first to approach logic through Dialectical Syllogism, prop a notion up to tear it down. Also, too, reductio ad absurdum.) except that there is movement hence there is the void, where Parmenides/Zeno postulated that movement was impossible since there is no void. Which of these circular arguments appeals the most? I favor Zeno, or as we have him, who was really posing questions they couldn't really answer.

Let's fast forward a bit to Kant and the notion that 'empty space doesn't exist' (not that it's necessarily impossible, just that we'll never experience this nothing). See The Third Analogy chapter in Critique of Pure Reason. http://www.garybanham.net/LECTURES_file ... 130910.pdf

<Kant claims that the continuous influences present in all the parts of space are what enable us to perceptually move between objects. Light is here mentioned as that which produces a mediated community between us and the objects but it should be clear that this light is not thereby declared by Kant to be the basis of the interaction. This is clear when he declares: “We cannot empirically change our position, and perceive the change, unless matter in all parts of space makes perception of our position possible to us” .
...
The reciprocal influence of the parts of matter establishes the simultaneity of even the most remote objects. Kant here suggests that this coexistence of objects even of the most remote sort is only mediately so shown but this is surely not meant to imply that the connection is only indirect for the substances but that it is so for our perception of them. The community of connection between the appearances is what gives the sense
to “experience” in the now ultimate Kantian sense of a dynamical world.>

Kant summarizes the argument of the 3 Analogies thusly: They are all “principles of the determination of the existence of appearances in time”.

Or you could say this: It's always something. If it's not one thing, it's another. - Rosannadanna

[murnau]

"Nothing exists except atoms and empty space. All else is opinion." That sounds so good to you that it, without another consideration whatsoever, it makes your opinion, your misapprehension of the material you pasted in here as good as anything factual or reasoned, as good as anything, doesn't it.

Yep, makes his whole topic obsolete. The proportion of a quantum (Planck length) to an atom is like an atom to planet earth. So if he think it's smart to requote "Nothing exists except atoms and empty space. All else is opinion." he forgot the quanta he originally copy/paste about.

PS. OP should also get one day that it's really bad attitude to SCREAM in every 2nd sentence.

[jancivil]

Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow and did you know
Your stairway lies on the whispering wind ?

Well, you know whenever a musician notices doing the same thing twice, in relation to the other events produces a result she likes or believes is going to continue to be useful that's kind of just solid ground. You're continuing to try and float this grand empty bag of an argument which works for you, you need it now so no one can know anything, as though everything is up for grabs since you're above the peasants who actually approach music in an honest endeavor. The empty space here is you.