Anyone here use Hive?
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- KVRAF
- 4064 posts since 22 Aug, 2012
There's something special about Sylenth, not sure what, but I absolutely love the sound. I only picked it up recently when it went 64bit on Mac, and very shortly afterwards Hive was sold.
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- Banned
- 1779 posts since 26 Aug, 2012
Thanks for that. I just assumed "sync" meant sync. Silly me!dsan@mail.com wrote:Turn off "Sync". Then it will start from the beginning of the sequence.Kinh wrote:Yeah its definitely an EDM thing. The sounds are quite good and diverse. The problem I have with it is the arpeggiator. I cant use any of the BPM or "Loop" presets because they dont retrigger, where you take your finger of they keyboard is where it starts from. This happens when you hit play on your DAW. Its a shame, that was one of the main reason I bought it. I demoed it on its own.
Has anyone found a fix for this?
I had asked this in the u-He forum a few weeks ago and Chapelle was kind enough to respondhttp://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=450349
Cheers!
dsan
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- KVRAF
- 4751 posts since 22 Nov, 2012
A couple of things. Hive is the most cpu friendly offering by u-he. It can still go 20% or more on a complex patch though so that is in perspective. It has a couple of things going for it. One is that everything is stereo so it has a huge wide sound stage. Second it has the distortion models and sub oscillators. This gives it a real low end growl and it will shock you with its base. That was totally unexpected for me. The filters are special. It's the same quality as bazille where they have a really high signal to noise. They are very clean in that way. I think hive makes an excellent Rock and roll soulful kind of organy grimy sound. Great for leads and bases.
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- KVRist
- 189 posts since 21 Feb, 2005
To me Hive is an amazing synth for EDM.
I definately prefer it over Spire which I sold.
I can make bigger and more modern EDM / Future/Deep House sounds with Hive than with Sylenth, but Sylenth
has a sound and workflow that most people are used to.
Hive won't ever replace Sylenth in this form , but having those two , Z3Ta 2+ , Lush 101 and Dune 2 I have all EDM sounds I could possibly need.
Hive sounds the most "fresh" of them all IMHO.
I definately prefer it over Spire which I sold.
I can make bigger and more modern EDM / Future/Deep House sounds with Hive than with Sylenth, but Sylenth
has a sound and workflow that most people are used to.
Hive won't ever replace Sylenth in this form , but having those two , Z3Ta 2+ , Lush 101 and Dune 2 I have all EDM sounds I could possibly need.
Hive sounds the most "fresh" of them all IMHO.
- KVRist
- 198 posts since 30 Sep, 2015 from Germany
I did demo Hive, and I was not hyped or impressed enough that I went Philip J. Fry over it - but I have to say that I do like what u-he has to offer there, which would be enough to buy it sooner or later (I guess that, since I already own Spire and Serum, I am not that easily impressed by a new synth after all). Also I didn't find the filters as harsh as described earlier by a couple of users, but that is just a matter of personal taste - I did rather like them, especially on some acid-y sound.
EDIT: I did try to demo Sylenth1 as well, but it crashed my Cubase 8 every once in a while (because I was using the 32bit instead of the 64bit version - in a earlier version of this post I was claiming that there was no 64bit version at all, which is wrong)
I just hope the New Sylenth1 V3.0 will soon be available for PC users - as soon as it is I will give both a try, and I am curious who will be the winner ...
EDIT: I did try to demo Sylenth1 as well, but it crashed my Cubase 8 every once in a while (because I was using the 32bit instead of the 64bit version - in a earlier version of this post I was claiming that there was no 64bit version at all, which is wrong)
I just hope the New Sylenth1 V3.0 will soon be available for PC users - as soon as it is I will give both a try, and I am curious who will be the winner ...
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- KVRist
- 198 posts since 30 Sep, 2015 from Germany
Yes ... yes, it hasBDeep wrote:Huh? The 64bit Windows version of Sylenth has been around for ages, hasn't it?
The demo version still is V2.2, for which they actually do provide a 64bit version on their website, while I still had the 32bit version lying around - and I was very sure there was no 64bit version since it was mentioned in the forums. That again was concerning the V3.0 beta, which is only available for registered Mac users so far (please correct me if I am wrong).
Sorry for mixing that up! I corrected my post to make that clear.
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
- Banned
- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
Yes, the 64-bit version for Windows has been around for quite some time, since November 2008 to be precise...
- KVRAF
- 5912 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
I have only demoed Hive but I don't think that Hive is a pad machine or a synth for very complex sounds. Hive plays very well in the same department where people would also use Sylenth, Spire, Retrologue etc. Arps, plucks, leads and all this stuff works great.
I would start with programming such more simple sounds because you will get the desired results in a short time. A pluck, lead or unison sound is very easy with Hive and you get also this "a ha effect" very quickly.
Btw. none of this newer synth has really replaced Sylenth. There is some "black magic" with this synth or that people are so familiar with the GUI or the sound used in so many Trance/EDM productions that a developer could create exactly the same synth and people would still prefer Sylenth
You can only try to resale Hive and buy Sylenth if you think this is the better synth.
I would start with programming such more simple sounds because you will get the desired results in a short time. A pluck, lead or unison sound is very easy with Hive and you get also this "a ha effect" very quickly.
Btw. none of this newer synth has really replaced Sylenth. There is some "black magic" with this synth or that people are so familiar with the GUI or the sound used in so many Trance/EDM productions that a developer could create exactly the same synth and people would still prefer Sylenth
You can only try to resale Hive and buy Sylenth if you think this is the better synth.
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
- Banned
- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
I wish people would stop putting it as if those synths were made for EDM/Trance. They may be good at that because of their multiple wave oscillators, but they are perfectly capable of replacing normal analog synths as well, i.e. of being used for R&B, Funk, etc.
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- Banned
- 1779 posts since 26 Aug, 2012
Yeah I noticed that myself today. There are some very usable presets for funk and there's a really full bodied sub-bass somewhere in the first column of the basses for hiphop (just a pity there aren't more subs).fluffy_little_something wrote:I wish people would stop putting it as if those synths were made for EDM/Trance. They may be good at that because of their multiple wave oscillators, but they are perfectly capable of replacing normal analog synths as well, i.e. of being used for R&B, Funk, etc.
- KVRAF
- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
Just a great synth, packed chokeful of great patches for easy access, but is also deeper than deep for those who like to tweak in detail
And it doesn't crush the CPU meter either
And it doesn't crush the CPU meter either
- KVRist
- 493 posts since 17 Dec, 2013 from The Netherlands
I agree, just listen to every track presented here, capable of both EDM and other genres. It's in your own hands with this great synth.fluffy_little_something wrote:I wish people would stop putting it as if those synths were made for EDM/Trance. They may be good at that because of their multiple wave oscillators, but they are perfectly capable of replacing normal analog synths as well, i.e. of being used for R&B, Funk, etc.
https://sites.google.com/site/kvrosc/osc-71-hive
- KVRAF
- 26922 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Yeah, the modulation in Hive is superior... both in capability and ease of use.Suloo wrote:i use Hive very often currently, i really like the option with the 3 different synth engines, Normal/Dirty/Clean, this can lead to a lot of different sounds, way more flexible than Sylenth. Also the routing and modulation options are superior to sylenth. Then Hive has pulse with modulation, wich is another +.
There is something lovely with the highs in Sylenth, but I don't like the low end in Sylenth. Hive low end is noticeably better... Sylenth sounds like a decade old low cpu synth in the bottom end.
I find Sylenth annoyingly limited... and for years now every new soundset sounds like previous soundsets... yup, that's Sylenth... same old sound and the more I hear it the less I like it. The envelopes are too limited for my interest. Envelope slope has a big influence on the character of a sound and I hear the sameness in Sylenth and its a turn-off.
Plenty of other newer synths have surpassed it these days. Spire walks all over Sylenth and is far more diverse.
I find Hive a bit too limited as well (I love Zebra!)... but the exceptional ease of use makes it fun and very productive. The drag-n-drop modulation of just about any parameter and the (almost) all on one page interface makes it the easiest to use synth I have tried. I try all sorts of stuff that I might not do otherwise cause it is so easy. Modulating the compressor, distortion, reverb etc. creates lovely effects.
- KVRAF
- 4803 posts since 21 Jan, 2008 from oO
Also there will be a fundamental new feature in the 3rd Hexagon, wich will set Hive probably even more apart.
New filter modes and OSC waveforms are also to be expected.
New filter modes and OSC waveforms are also to be expected.
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