U-he FM synth?

[pdxindy]

Describe what more you would want...

When i am working on a song and i come to limit of a synth which does not let me to creat exactly sound i want unfortionaly it does not happan if i write on a Uhe forum: Uhe add one more mapng generator to Ace. And next day Uhe releases patch with another maping generator.

So because this does not hapen i think it will be very waisly to have more then you need so you do not come to a point when you creativity is limited by instruments.

Not to mess GUI extra staff could be held in sub menys so if you do not need that you will never see it.

I meant, describe the specific limits currently in Zebra. There is not much you cannot do in Zebra. In general with u-he synths, because of the depth that is there, often what looks like a limit is not really a limit. I've seen various users say this or that cannot be done, but there often is a way to do it.

[knowix]

What are Zebra's supposed failings when it comes to FM synthesis anyway? Too few OPs or an inability to create some of the classic FM algo arrangments? Something else entirely?

https://www.yamahasynth.com/forum?contr ... ent&id=376

[Howard]

What are Zebra's supposed failings when it comes to FM synthesis anyway? Too few OPs or an inability to create some of the classic FM algo arrangments? Something else entirely?

The ambulobes are too limited for silly7

[exmatproton]

What are Zebra's supposed failings when it comes to FM synthesis anyway? Too few OPs or an inability to create some of the classic FM algo arrangments? Something else entirely?

The ambulobes are too limited for silly7

New title for an album

[david.beholder]

Late to the party but this url is good: https://www.u-he.com/cms/bazille

[Arrested Developer]

The ambulobes are too limited for silly7

Howard,
i slightly remember once there was a thread about dx7 sounds and zebra, when you pointed to the fact that the carrier has to have the capability of doing FM.
Does this mean that in Zebra (with 4 OSCs and 4 FM modules) the algorithms 24, 25, 31, 32 can't be done?
What about some of the other algorithms that involve feedback?

p.s. a tutorial about this would be great; or the patch-templates for the possible algorithms.

[Cyoon]

this thread maybe?

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=440176

[Howard]

Does this mean that in Zebra (with 4 OSCs and 4 FM modules) the algorithms 24, 25, 31, 32 can't be done? What about some of the other algorithms that involve feedback?

I suspect only those algorithms that have feedback across 2 or 3 operators (algorithms 4 and 6) can't be done in Zebra. I reckon that 24, 25, 31 and 32 are possible.

There was a thread all about this, but not the above link. Found it...
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=359503

[knowix]

Some interesting stuff in those threads. Sometimes it's easy to forget how much work goes into the finer details of synthesis and instead focus too much on the raw sound of oscillators, filters etc.

[bmrzycki]

The only reason I can see for matching 1:1 all algorithms in classic FM synths is to attempt at copying patches over numerically. With the versatility of Z2 my intuition tells me you can re-create all those sounds (and more) with the collection of sound generators we already have today.

It's usually my lack of skill that prevents the sound creation rather than Zebra itself. When I come back months or years later it always feels like I have one of those "duh, how simple" moments and the synth almost gets out of the way. Maybe that's just familiarity but I've found it's one of the few tools I go back to again and again.

[pdxindy]

The only reason I can see for matching 1:1 all algorithms in classic FM synths is to attempt at copying patches over numerically. With the versatility of Z2 my intuition tells me you can re-create all those sounds (and more) with the collection of sound generators we already have today.

That is what I expect too. One Osc can by itself do so much sonically that would take multiple simple FM osc's to accomplish.