Melda plug that lets the Mid get panned to both Sides?

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alexis1 wrote:Thank you for your comments gentlemen!

I looked at the 3 minute teaser for MStereoSpread (is there a longer one?), and I got the impression it is great for taking a mono-ish signal and making it more stereo. I don't know that is exactly what I'm looking for though - my piano is wide stereo already, and I want to part it down the middle like opening up a stage curtain just a bit - push some a bit left, and some a bit right, to open a hole for a vocal in the middle.

Is that possible?

Thanks again!
What's going on in this thread? Just put MEqualizer (for example, any Melda plugin with mid mode and gain control will do), put it in Mid mode and reduce gain. Or do it with more precision and carve out just the frequencies that collide with your vocals.

You can then optionally insert another plugin in Side mode and boost that part, if the first process makes the piano too weak.

Panning and Mid/side don't inhabit in the same spatial domain, panning is a operation you perform on signals encoded in stereo. Left/right don't technically exist in mid/side encoding.

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...bump to a thread that won't die :lol: ...this occurred to me as a solution to a mix/project I was working on...I ended up duplicating the track to be "split," and paned one almost hard left and the other almost hard right... :love: ...big hole in the middle with lotsa control on the gain/balance/mid level...mmmmmm....another "cat" skinned... :lol: ...hth.../s~
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steve2KVR wrote:...bump to a thread that won't die :lol: ...this occurred to me as a solution to a mix/project I was working on...I ended up duplicating the track to be "split," and paned one almost hard left and the other almost hard right... :love: ...big hole in the middle with lotsa control on the gain/balance/mid level...mmmmmm....another "cat" skinned... :lol: ...hth.../s~
Not sure if I'm missing something here, but this doesn't work.
If you pan one left and one right, you actually still have the same signal.
Jason @ Melda Production

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Yep. I thought so too.

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Splitting the Mid by frequency would be ideal.

For example, middle C and lower in the Mid signal would be panned L10; higher frequencies in the MId signal would be panned R10.

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alexis1 wrote:Splitting the Mid by frequency would be ideal.

For example, middle C and lower in the Mid signal would be panned L10; higher frequencies in the MId signal would be panned R10.
Oh, I forgot to answer your question.
Basically that is exactly what is happening in MStereoSpread. Expect in your example it would sound very lopsided (bass in one ear and treble in the other)
In the example i gave you I used 20 bands, it sounds very natural. But it doesn't stop there, MSS goes up to a whooping 100 bands!
Jason @ Melda Production

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jmg8 wrote:
alexis1 wrote:Splitting the Mid by frequency would be ideal.

For example, middle C and lower in the Mid signal would be panned L10; higher frequencies in the MId signal would be panned R10.
Oh, I forgot to answer your question.
Basically that is exactly what is happening in MStereoSpread. Expect in your example it would sound very lopsided (bass in one ear and treble in the other)
In the example i gave you I used 20 bands, it sounds very natural. But it doesn't stop there, MSS goes up to a whooping 100 bands!
Oh, thanks, jmg8!

Maybe not so lopsided for my piano example, as the Mid doesn't cover the full spectrum. I may trial MStereoSpread (while saving pennies for MXXX) to see if it sounds better to me than what I am doing now - simply attenuating the Mid piano by 2dB.

Thanks again, so kind of you to show what MXXX can do there!

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There is a free MStereoExpander that will work well for you.
Jason @ Melda Production

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@alexis
If you decide to demo some of the Melda plugins or MXXX, a really helpful thing is that you can continue to use them fully after the trial period with only the occasional noise as limitation. I did that for quite a while before I got the MtotalBundle.

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Soarer wrote:@alexis
If you decide to demo some of the Melda plugins or MXXX, a really helpful thing is that you can continue to use them fully after the trial period with only the occasional noise as limitation. I did that for quite a while before I got the MtotalBundle.
Yes that's true.
MTotalRespect!
Jason @ Melda Production

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