Thanks yeah thats what I thought. I think i Will wait for a few months then.SLiC wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:13 pmMainly about the grid....rumour is that the next set of features will be midi tools, comping etc - so you may want to wait if the modular world isn't for you- here is a short list so you can decide, there are also a lot of minor improvements.Proken wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:03 pm So Bitwig 3 is all about The Grid in my opinion. Are there any other new features instead of the Grid? Otherwise I dont see why I should upgrade. The Grid is awesome no doubt, but I dont want to upgrade to 3 just because of the Grid.
New Features
The Grid, Bitwig Studio's new modular sound-design environment, comprising a library of 154 modules, a bevy of editing gestures, and interactive assistance that is always on hand
Revamped instrument Inspector Panel for all Bitwig devices that support polyphony. Now with three voice modes (polyphony and two flavors of mono), Voice Stacking, and more.
Optional Realtime Ruler, for showing time in MINUTEs:SECONDs.MILLISECONDs (enable via the right-click context menu in ruler area)
Automatic project backups, keeping a copy of the most recent project file within the project folder each time you hit save
VU Meters in routing choosers, allowing you to see the signal you are looking for
Converting devices (e.g., EQ-2 to EQ-5) is now possible by right-clicking on the device header
Added manual mapping actions for Activate, Deactivate, Toggle Active, and Activate Exclusively of a track or group track header
Ableton Link version 3 support, allowing you to synchronize start and stop of the transport
Global GUI Contrast settings, to better adapt to different lighting conditions
Added controller support for Keith McMillen Instruments' K-Board Pro 4
Bitwig Studio 3 gets 10 out of 10 from MusicTech Review
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- KVRist
- 118 posts since 1 Nov, 2018
- KVRAF
- 26930 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
It is $130 per year to always be up to date if you buy smartJunSev wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:43 pmThat is the problem with bitwig, I don't see generosity in $170 for updates a year, in fact, there is not even consideration about the people with lower income or social situations, and as long people only say: Yeah is ok, we pay $170, all good, I will wait for a sale, still pricey but all good. they will not improve or change their ways.
- KVRAF
- 26930 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
v3 is mostly about the Grid... one other feature not mentioned in that list is that all the Bitwig instruments (not just the Grid) are now multi-core.Proken wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:17 pm Thanks yeah thats what I thought. I think i Will wait for a few months then.
And yeah, if the Grid isn't of interest to you, just wait and see what 3.1 brings...
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- KVRAF
- 8094 posts since 16 Oct, 2006
I really wanted to make Bitwig my main DAW but no way I'm doing the yearly upgrade thing mate.. Looks fabulous thopdxindy wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:21 pmv3 is mostly about the Grid... one other feature not mentioned in that list is that all the Bitwig instruments (not just the Grid) are now multi-core.Proken wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:17 pm Thanks yeah thats what I thought. I think i Will wait for a few months then.
And yeah, if the Grid isn't of interest to you, just wait and see what 3.1 brings...
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gentleclockdivider gentleclockdivider https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=203660
- Banned
- 6787 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent
I want to route the output of the filter back to itself ( with a mixer or merge module ) , sadly this aint happening
It doesn't allow feedback routing at all
Am I missing something ?

I see this has been requested by someone ,
https://answers.bitwig.com/questions/20 ... ck-in-grid
Did they really leave this feature out ?
It doesn't allow feedback routing at all
Am I missing something ?

I see this has been requested by someone ,
https://answers.bitwig.com/questions/20 ... ck-in-grid
Did they really leave this feature out ?
Eyeball exchanging
Soul calibrating ..frequencies
Soul calibrating ..frequencies
- KVRAF
- 26930 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
understood...rob_lee wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:23 pm
I really wanted to make Bitwig my main DAW but no way I'm doing the yearly upgrade thing mate.. Looks fabulous tho![]()
Personally, I don't care about the cost... in the long run it is minimal compared to what I have spent on hardware and my studio in general... works out to about $11 a month, and Bitwig offers me a set of tools that nothing else does.
Not trying to convince you of anything, but going by all the gear that you buy, it seems inconsequential for you as well.
- KVRAF
- 26930 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Use the Long Delay in the feedback loop... it has a minimum of 1 buffer delaygentleclockdivider wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:25 pm I want to route the output of the filter back to itself ( with a mixer or merge module ) , sadly this aint happening
It doesn't allow feedback routing at all
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- KVRAF
- 8094 posts since 16 Oct, 2006
Good point mate I spent a fortune on hardware too so I suppose Bitwig is peanuts in comparison.pdxindy wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:35 pmunderstood...rob_lee wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:23 pm
I really wanted to make Bitwig my main DAW but no way I'm doing the yearly upgrade thing mate.. Looks fabulous tho![]()
Personally, I don't care about the cost... in the long run it is minimal compared to what I have spent on hardware and my studio in general... works out to about $11 a month, and Bitwig offers me a set of tools that nothing else does.
Not trying to convince you of anything, but going by all the gear that you buy, it seems inconsequential for you as well.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12082 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Then don't do the yearly update thing....its optional! Buy V3 and you have enough tools to last a lifetime (and a year of free updates) you never have to upgrade again if you don't want to, its a perpetual licence...its like not buying Cubase 10 because you will 'have to' buy Cubase 10.5...to keep up to date (then 11, then 11.5....)rob_lee wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:23 pmI really wanted to make Bitwig my main DAW but no way I'm doing the yearly upgrade thing mate.. Looks fabulous thopdxindy wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:21 pmv3 is mostly about the Grid... one other feature not mentioned in that list is that all the Bitwig instruments (not just the Grid) are now multi-core.Proken wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:17 pm Thanks yeah thats what I thought. I think i Will wait for a few months then.
And yeah, if the Grid isn't of interest to you, just wait and see what 3.1 brings...![]()
X32 Desk, i9 PC, S88MK3, S1, BWS, Live + PUSH 3, Osmose, RedShift 6 Pro3, Tempera, Syntakt, Digitone II, OP1-F, OPXY, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!
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- KVRAF
- 8094 posts since 16 Oct, 2006
SLiC wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:43 pmThen don't do the yearly update thing....its optional! Buy V3 and you have enough tools to last a lifetime (and a year of free updates) you never have to upgrade again if you don't want to, its a perpetual licence...its like not buying Cubase 10 because you will 'have to' buy Cubase 10.5...to keep up to date (then 11, then 11.5....)rob_lee wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:23 pmI really wanted to make Bitwig my main DAW but no way I'm doing the yearly upgrade thing mate.. Looks fabulous thopdxindy wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:21 pmv3 is mostly about the Grid... one other feature not mentioned in that list is that all the Bitwig instruments (not just the Grid) are now multi-core.Proken wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:17 pm Thanks yeah thats what I thought. I think i Will wait for a few months then.
And yeah, if the Grid isn't of interest to you, just wait and see what 3.1 brings...![]()
Makes sense.. I'm a Live user but I always did like Bitwig I may invest in this
- KVRian
- 829 posts since 14 Sep, 2017
Then I'm just talking about some particulars that act as representatives in the bitwig forum.pdxindy wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:15 pmThe Bitwig representatives hardly post at all... even in the Bitwig forum... and when they do, it is just about some specific issue related to Bitwig.JunSev wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:56 pmKeep in mind the reason I'm commenting here is because of the trash talking/bashing/exaggeration of some of those bitwig representatives
- KVRAF
- 26930 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Everyone acts as themselves and speaks for themselves... only the Bitwig devs can act as representatives of Bitwig.JunSev wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:07 pmThen I'm just talking about some particulars that act as representatives in the bitwig forum.pdxindy wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:15 pmThe Bitwig representatives hardly post at all... even in the Bitwig forum... and when they do, it is just about some specific issue related to Bitwig.JunSev wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:56 pmKeep in mind the reason I'm commenting here is because of the trash talking/bashing/exaggeration of some of those bitwig representatives
If some forum user speaks in some way you don't like, that is between you and that person and has nothing to do with Bitwig at all.
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- KVRist
- 118 posts since 1 Nov, 2018
I think if they change the upgrade plan to litterarly 11€/$ a month, more people will jump in because a monthly low cost is a lower mental bump then a 1 time 129€/$.pdxindy wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:35 pmunderstood...rob_lee wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:23 pm
I really wanted to make Bitwig my main DAW but no way I'm doing the yearly upgrade thing mate.. Looks fabulous tho![]()
Personally, I don't care about the cost... in the long run it is minimal compared to what I have spent on hardware and my studio in general... works out to about $11 a month, and Bitwig offers me a set of tools that nothing else does.
Not trying to convince you of anything, but going by all the gear that you buy, it seems inconsequential for you as well.
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
Yeah, most of them get on my nerves too, it's KVR after all, try to hit Bitwig Facebook groups, way better community.JunSev wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:07 pm Then I'm just talking about some particulars that act as representatives in the bitwig forum.
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- KVRist
- 381 posts since 21 May, 2018
$129 for updates is what people get hung up on but in the long run you save yourself over Cubase or Abelton Live.
I was still on Bitwig 1 and I just paid my $129 and I got Bitwig 2 immediately and got Bitwig Beta 3 also. I think it is a good plan but they need to figure a way to communicate it to the community. I feel great because I got Bitwig 3 for so cheap.
I was still on Bitwig 1 and I just paid my $129 and I got Bitwig 2 immediately and got Bitwig Beta 3 also. I think it is a good plan but they need to figure a way to communicate it to the community. I feel great because I got Bitwig 3 for so cheap.
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Bitwig is my DAWs and UHe and Tracktion Synths are my Bae. I maybe buy one synth a year. REMEMBER SELF just one synth a year!
Bitwig is my DAWs and UHe and Tracktion Synths are my Bae. I maybe buy one synth a year. REMEMBER SELF just one synth a year!