multiband doppler effect possible with a melda plugin ?

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magicmusic wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:04 pm if the speaker make no strange distortion, then it must be possible with freeform eq or other with "equalize to sound like" that it sound very simular to the speaker record as it happen with clean or crunch guitar. the microphone is not the problem, because i can record clean sound with this microphone and i can with "equalize to sound like" and reach the same clean tone so i can not hear a diffrence

diffrence only get more and more when much distortion is use.
It's not that simple. IR simulates the spectrum response, that's all. But there's an amp, reproductor, microphone, all of which change the dynamics somehow, they also distort a bit, since these cannot be linear in real world (or more like nobody found a way to do that yet). But that doesn't mean any of these things are awesome. Anyways just some Saturator should do the trick. Probably multiple of them, separated by EQs. But it's not like you'll learn a profile using MFreeformEqualizer and you have an amp with everything.

Anyways I tried that thing about doppler, and I cannot say it made it "awesome". It distorts a bit, but that's about it, no miracle to my ears.
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if you hear with doppler some kind of distortion, and i hear exciter help, maybe mdistortionMB can do the job. but when create a band that distort from 0-4 khz the distortion result of the band is not lowpass limit depend on crossover type. multiband distortion only lowpass the input signal. is it possible to lowpass the distortion result of the band but the input is not lowpass ?. maybe when can do this, there can distort upto 4 khz normal and over 4 khz less. i think lowpass only input is not so usefull because strong distortion on a low freq band create ugly distortion high frequency too
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in short diffrence between speaker simulation and real cabinet is that real cabinet sound metallic. maybed can compare with a metal bell and a glass or plastic bell. but the metal sound effect is not so strong. current speaker simulation sound more as a plastic bell or glass bell.because melda develop also pysical modeling, maybe they know which harmonic decide if a bell sound as glass or as a metal bell. then this harmonics need enhance in speaker simulation to sound as metal.

another theory: Such wide band speakers have a big metal membrane basket that keeps the membrane. maybe the metal sound of a real cabinet happen that this membrane basket resonate at high frequency and because it is out of metal, it sounds metallic.
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Who knows, anyways I'm afraid I already spent too much time on this with pretty much no results. Anyways as I said, you can play with the DelayMod module in MXXX, which I designed for this (though it can be used for many things).
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I try to create a impulse from my cabinet with mconvolution mb(i have connect mixer out to cabinet FX return, and signal is not distort). this do not work. maybe the dynamic is too few ?. see screenshot. But with studio one IR Maker plugin i can create a impulse.

important is that use highest sample rate as possible. 44 khz sound very dull and worse. 96 khz(higher i can not record) sound little better as 88 khz. the strange and good thing is the 96 khz impulse sound on mconvolution when DAW is 44 khz good as 96 khz.

maybe a error in IR Maker plugin. also the impulse sound not very good in compare as the original. but it can with EQ correct. there need boos high freq in general with a self to sound not dull. Most important then is add at 9500 hz a parametric EQ Q4 -12 db. this reduce the harsh fizzeling sound of speaker simulation good without let sound them dull. and when 9500 hz is reduce there can boost high frequency and it get not fizzeling and harsh

maybe mconvolution impulse record can get better results ?
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I simulate doppler with mspectral delay. sound really good now. reduce muddy sound and more as metal. only strange thing is, that it reduce muddy frequency and loudness when the delay is modulate with the sinus.
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magicmusic wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:46 pm I simulate doppler with mspectral delay. sound really good now. reduce muddy sound and more as metal. only strange thing is, that it reduce muddy frequency and loudness when the delay is modulate with the sinus.
Very interesting result!
A very unexpected solution, such an effeckt to get there. I think it also changes the frequency here due to many comb filters created by the delay.

Nevertheless I find the idea with the Doppller effect interesting and built this:
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Sounds nice fuzz in the heights.
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wow amazing find, thanks. to sound better there need disable the speaker sim in bias amp and add after last ratio module a cabinet module. ratio i set to 54 and it realy sound great. I copy your preset in code and paste it. really good that sharing in melda plugins work with clipboard. this is the version with mcabinet at end

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I notice now the delaymod solution sound very good when play power chords but not so good on solo on some high notes and when bend. so need look how can make better. maybe there is a latency of the modulation source to the delay so strange sound happen on bend ?
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Yes, there's latency, the DelayMod has to precalculate, here min. 10ms.
And then while reunion of the two bands, there must be phase cancelation. It can be fixed, maybe.
Can you post a sound excample?

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I think the problem is gone when the cross module is switch to 6 db. you hear only when pitch change very few. on normal play vibrato it is not hear anymore. maybe the change of distortion is too fast with 24 db. but maybe to it is usefull to add on the direct line on left side a delay that delay all 5 ms. so the effect have latency of 5 ms. this is good for realtime play too.

I have add in the preset in front a looper with a test example. but it seem the audio data is not store in the clipboard preset. then i save the patch(currently i can only use mxxx in demo) . when i choose in menu of mxxx "open device folder in explorer" then i did not see my preset in explorer window. it show appdata\roaming\meldaProduction\meldaProduction MXXX\active presets. i store it in root folder and later in delay folder. On windows explorer this preset is not see after several tests and window reopen. Global presets page in mxxxx can load this preset in. so it must be somewhere

this is the new preset without looper data

Edit: oh when save with gloabal presets the looper audio is not store too. and when i store and load the preset with studio one the looper audio is too not store and load. and save and load in the looper a preset does too not save and load audio data

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The screenshot that contain plugins in MXXXcore is old. there is no delaymod list
https://www.meldaproduction.com/MXXXCore

is delaymod in mxxcore in ?
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No, this is just MXXX full. Unfortunately I don't know how to buy this module.

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If you want an authentic tone from IRs you need to use a reactive load box with your amp (in place of the speaker cab) and take a line out from it to the IR. What goes on between the power amp and the reactive load (whether a speaker cab or a dedicated load box) is where the dynamics occur. In short, the impedance curve of the reactive load is quite different at low power vs at high power. A bunch of things contribute to guitar speaker sound but this is by far the most dominant "effect".

Jon at Sonic Drive Studios has a video where he compares four different Marshall heads going into a Fractal Audio reactive load box and then into Own Hammer IRs. It sounds quite authentic. No way in the world it can sound like that using a preamp out into IRs or using a resistive load into IRs. It has to be a reactive load on the power amp or it will sound lame. Also note that Jon also has some metal oriented videos using similar techniques if that is your interest.



Here is a great thread on a DIY reactive load box that shows impedance curves and why they are important:

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index ... d.1072793/

On page 22 of that thread you will find my variant of the design as user Mike Sch.

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sekim wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:24 am If you want an authentic tone from IRs you need to use a reactive load box with your amp (in place of the speaker cab) and take a line out from it to the IR.
I look into the video and the thread and the load box look as a EQ can see in the Forum. please look at my example video what i mean. with delaymod, it sound very good as a real guitar amp speaker. in the previous video example i use my own cabinet record and spectral delay. in this video i use the preset in mcabinet contemporary thick. but many other mcabinet presets sound too very good with delaymod you can also hear with diffrent mix values of delay mod

maybe such a doppler simulate feature can add direct in mcabinet. I think then it is best.
Edit: there is no reverb in this video. with reverb sound even more better
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