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What do you mean by tracks?

I was able to select multiple 'volume and pan plugins' ( the default at the right side of each track ) by ctrl+click and pull the volume and pan and they all worked

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mikoatkvr wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:08 am Image
What do you mean by tracks?

I was able to select multiple 'volume and pan plugins' ( the default at the right side of each track ) by ctrl+click and pull the volume and pan and they all worked
Ah, I see. You've always been able to do that, but with the filters you need to click them individually. There is a 'select all plugins of this type' option, but I use two volume/pan filters per track so that doesn't work out. Would be nice if it worked just like with the mixer, but at the actual volume/pan filter on the edit window (repeating myself, sorry).

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Another reason the old cursor action is better.

You basically got a free "click to locate" out of it because you could double click or click with the slightest drag to locate the cursor, but since it didn't immediately locate on the first click (as it does now) you could select clips while still having your cursor stay where you want it. Now the cursor moves to wherever you click to select a clip, ruining your editing point. Some of my macros and key commands have become obsolete, editing is way less intuitive. I'm excited about some of the new features, but will probably stick with 11.1 if this is the way forward.

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Kang wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:41 am It did not work on the edit window for me, which is where I'd most like to see it.
Seems like a bit of a context issue to me. Selecting tracks in the main edit view is different from selecting mixer lanes in the mixer. I personally wouldn't want track selection to work that way.
Surely there must be consensus by now...

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Hello,

about Welcome Tab,
BR: recent edits are only parts of Active Projects and Library Projects folders, not of other folders,
FR: could it be possible to sort and show/hide Project Templates?

Many thanks! :tu:
Waveform Pro 13.5.25 Windows 10

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pough wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:04 pm
Kang wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:41 am It did not work on the edit window for me, which is where I'd most like to see it.
Seems like a bit of a context issue to me. Selecting tracks in the main edit view is different from selecting mixer lanes in the mixer. I personally wouldn't want track selection to work that way.

I don't quite follow. When you select tracks in the edit window it is the same thing as selecting on the mixer, they will both be highlighted. Why can't you now control the volume from one of the filters that gets controlled by the mixer anyways? I don't think that changes track selection at all.

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asprog wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:20 pm BR: recent edits are only parts of Active Projects and Library Projects folders, not of other folders,
FR: could it be possible to sort and show/hide Project Templates?
Thank for report. Fixed the first issue, will think about the second.

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Kang wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:33 am Another reason the old cursor action is better.

You basically got a free "click to locate" out of it because you could double click or click with the slightest drag to locate the cursor, but since it didn't immediately locate on the first click (as it does now) you could select clips while still having your cursor stay where you want it. Now the cursor moves to wherever you click to select a clip, ruining your editing point. Some of my macros and key commands have become obsolete, editing is way less intuitive. I'm excited about some of the new features, but will probably stick with 11.1 if this is the way forward.
Old way will be back in the next beta as an option.

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When the piano roll or the mixer window is detached in their own separate window it would be great if tthey had a maximise button on the standard titlebar?

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The good news is: I can actually use the beta AND my outboard effects with the experimental (a la hybrid) now enabled and still have any sound at all. At least so far. Up to this build it never worked.

The bad news so far is: it's a crackle-fest. If I disable the experimental engine (and I have zero plugins loaded), I can use a hardware synth easily at 96K at 64 samples. Once I enabled the experimental engine, it crackles and pops like crazy, no matter what I set it at. So... it's still unusable, unless I disable the experimental engine.

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Kang wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:55 pm I don't quite follow. When you select tracks in the edit window it is the same thing as selecting on the mixer, they will both be highlighted. Why can't you now control the volume from one of the filters that gets controlled by the mixer anyways? I don't think that changes track selection at all.
IMO, your request makes more sense in a DAW that has specific, hard-coded volume controls at the end of each track. In Waveform, this is faked in the mixer view but the edit view has no such constraints. That's what I mean by context. What should you expect to happen in the edit view if you select multiple tracks and change the volume in one of several volume plugins on one of the tracks? This is visually sorted out in the mixer view by having only the last plugin on each track be THE volume.

Having said all that... I just realized that I have never wanted to change multiple volumes and might not ever want to do that, so I'll just bow out of this discussion after explaining what I meant.
Surely there must be consensus by now...

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pough wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:37 pm
Kang wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:55 pm I don't quite follow. When you select tracks in the edit window it is the same thing as selecting on the mixer, they will both be highlighted. Why can't you now control the volume from one of the filters that gets controlled by the mixer anyways? I don't think that changes track selection at all.
IMO, your request makes more sense in a DAW that has specific, hard-coded volume controls at the end of each track. In Waveform, this is faked in the mixer view but the edit view has no such constraints. That's what I mean by context. What should you expect to happen in the edit view if you select multiple tracks and change the volume in one of several volume plugins on one of the tracks? This is visually sorted out in the mixer view by having only the last plugin on each track be THE volume.

Having said all that... I just realized that I have never wanted to change multiple volumes and might not ever want to do that, so I'll just bow out of this discussion after explaining what I meant.
Fair enough, I feel like they could figure out an elegant way to do it, but I get what you are saying. I'm just spit-balling, I for one do this type of thing (multiple selecting volume filters) ALL the time. I'm VERY happy with the new feature as it speeds up my workflow in that regard (even if I do have to use the mixer now :)). I've worked professionally with tracktion for a long time so it's near to my heart and I realize it can be annoying, but I have lots of ideas and opinions that I like to throw out there just because it's possible.
FigBug wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:05 pm
Old way will be back in the next beta as an option.
Yes! Made my day.

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I noticed that merged clips now go to the Export folder of the project. I think this might be a bug since they are actually named "render" and in previous (tracktion) versions went to the Render folder, which makes more sense.

To add to this, a feature request. Could merged clip renders include the name of the track? This would help greatly with future-proofing sessions/general organization.

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Modifiers are broken: the "drag this" one doesn't add anything, and the built-in one won't connect to anything.
(Incidentally, it really ought to be possible to drag a plugin to the modifier's property pane to add it to the list of things controlled by the modifier...)

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I could be wrong but I don't think my click track is working when I have no audio files in my edit. I double checked all the settings ('click plays on playback' is selected) and it was driving me crazy because all my old edits had a working click, but a new template I was setting up I couldn't get the click to work.

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