HY Slicer 2 Rumors

[Trancit]

Does anyone know if HY Slicer 2 automatically time stretches the tail portion of each slice so as to avoid noticeable gaps between slices when the tempo is slowed down? Because if it doesn't do this, then what good is it?
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Tbh, it´s the first thing I turn off when timestretch is available in a slicer... I haven´t heard a single timestretch algo which does a good job on percussions/drums in general...
All are smearing the transients far too much and can only be used in such small amounts that at these tempo changes any gaps aren´t that noticeable anyway...

But I don´t do any hiphop/trap resample type of slicing... I use a slicer to have more control and a cleaner way of tempo alligning the hits to a different bpm...
I can imagine that for more of resampling purposes timestretch might work but for me, for drums it´s a no-go...
So when it hasn´t got any timestretch abilities it´s still very good as it offer the control I like...

What I miss is to have more of a traditional slicer approach and not just the crazy stuff...

Loading a loop and having the midi triggers for the slices ready as a midi file to drag into the daw...
This afaik wasn´t easily possible in Slicer 1 and I didn´t see anything that this might have changed...

[Big Mouth Strikes Again]

Tbh, it´s the first thing I turn off when timestretch is available in a slicer... I haven´t heard a single timestretch algo which does a good job on percussions/drums in general...
All are smearing the transients far too much and can only be used in such small amounts that at these tempo changes any gaps aren´t that noticeable anyway...

But I don´t do any hiphop/trap resample type of slicing... I use a slicer to have more control and a cleaner way of tempo alligning the hits to a different bpm...
I can imagine that for more of resampling purposes timestretch might work but for me, for drums it´s a no-go...
So when it hasn´t got any timestretch abilities it´s still very good as it offer the control I like...

What I miss is to have more of a traditional slicer approach and not just the crazy stuff...

Loading a loop and having the midi triggers for the slices ready as a midi file to drag into the daw...
This afaik wasn´t easily possible in Slicer 1 and I didn´t see anything that this might have changed...

The problem with "slicers" that time stretch individual hits within a loop is that they time stretch entire slices including the all-important attack transients at the start of slices. The result, as you note, is smeared attack transients that result in artificial, weak-sounding slices.

The solution is to time stretch only a percentage specified "tail" portion of each slice.This way drum and percussion slices in particular remain punchy and realistic sounding.

I can't believe no developer seems to understand this obvious fact. Developers instead keep releasing slicers that just chop up loops in a stiff and unnatural way so that the loop sounds disjointed with obvious gaps between slices. As awful as ReCycle sounds, it's infinitely better than this crude chopping approach.

[Jonathan Shepherd]

@Bigmouth Strikes Again: as long as timestretching is an option I'm fine. Your idea sounds great though, perhaps Tadashi considers it, as he seems to be down for the kitchen sink approach, in the best way. Off topic, love your tag! In the past few years I've gotten back into the Smiths. I think I appreciate them now more than I ever did before. Maybe it's maturity? I dunno. Good day-

[NWSM]

Short DNB Idea made with HY Sliver 2 Version 0.9.5 beta

https://www.screencast.com/t/tB5jw1kZ

[NWSM]

Any time frame for the release of Slicer 2?

i have just no idea...but i think around version 1 it can be released.
I dont know how much ideas can or will be implemented, and its a question of bug findings...

[NWSM]

Does anyone know if HY Slicer 2 automatically time stretches the tail portion of each slice so as to avoid noticeable gaps between slices when the tempo is slowed down? Because if it doesn't do this, then what good is it?
...

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What I miss is to have more of a traditional slicer approach and not just the crazy stuff...

Loading a loop and having the midi triggers for the slices ready as a midi file to drag into the daw...
This afaik wasn´t easily possible in Slicer 1 and I didn´t see anything that this might have changed...

How slicer works is not a traditional slicer tool, because the Slice Grid is implemented, to build presets you can use everywhere and edit a Slicer Preset with a lot of internal Effects, its just a "Rhythmic Looper FX Slicer Tool"

... also the Presets are one file and no separated slice audio export or something
... a pitch timestretch the slices
... you cant drop Files from the Browser into Slicer
... you cant drop Slices into Daw

but maybe it can be possible. The Slicer 2 is just in the making and i also hope for some nice features, especially for the Slicer Funktion itself and File handling.

for sure i him drop a lot of suggestions omg*

[Trancit]

How slicer works is not a traditional slicer tool, because the Slice Grid is implemented, to build presets you can use everywhere and edit a Slicer Preset with a lot of internal Effects, its just a "Rhythmic Looper FX Slicer Tool"

... also the Presets are one file and no separated slice audio export or something
... a pitch timestretch the slices
... you cant drop Files from the Browser into Slicer
... you cant drop Slices into Daw

but maybe it can be possible. The Slicer 2 is just in the making and i also hope for some nice features, especially for the Slicer Funktion itself and File handling.

for sure i him drop a lot of suggestions omg*

I understand this but actually I use a traditional slicer much more than a specialized slice fx tool...

So if there is a new version coming I would like better to see both ways... traditional and experimental instead of just a specialized mangling tool which I would have need for just in certain situations while needing the other one all of the time...

[NWSM]

Kleines TUT in DEUTSCH
Little tutorial and working in german language.

https://odysee.com/@NWSM:b/HY-Slicer-2-beta:6

[Jonathan Shepherd]

Thanks for the video mate. Looks like there's plenty going on, in a HY accessible user friendly kinda way. I'm in-

[Zoopy]

Is the beta public?

This looks like what I hoped loopmix would be, really tired of devs forcing timestretch into every sampler without the option to turn it off.

[NWSM]

It will release in a short amount of time...after the manual is written.
i think some ideas need to revisit by the Coder...but i dont know whats in his mind...

[Jonathan Shepherd]

Alrighty! Well, this (use) tax year I've been holding onto my cash a little tighter than normal, but Tadashi will get some, every time.

[vulpes777]

HY-Slicer2 is out: https://hy-plugins.com/product/hy-slicer2/

Intro price until June 27 and free upgrade for owners of HY-Slicer.

Regards,

--
Marco

[topaz]

Confused with this one, hmm all midi interaction seems gone. no way to slice by grid, play slices via midi.

Feedback awaits.

[emef]

installed the demo, then deleted it quickly after cos everything's so tiny on my laptop, made it as big as i could for my screen, but all the controls are unreadable