Undo doesn't work on volume changes

[Watchful]

On a related note to Peter's last question, quite a few of us have asked for Waveform's undo feature to let us see what it's undoing before we do it--the way many applications do with levels of undo.

I can't tell you how many times I've typed the name into a track--only to discover the focus wasn't in the right pane and suddenly discovered I've inadvertently turned on loop, disabled a key plugin, or turned off automation... with no way of telling later what I just did until it's too late.

An undo feature that lists the last few actions would not only fix that (so I could see what the heck I just did), but would probably eliminate a fair amount of complaints from folks here about "weird bugs" that they themselves may have inadvertently caused by typing a key that did something in the background.

Anyway, given my disappointment with the v12 audio engine, I'd much rather they'd have worked on these issues than tinkering with the 11.5 engine which still works very, very well for me.

[tmaworks]

What's interesting is that, if you adjust volume, pan, mute, etc. and THEN hit undo, the REDO button indicates there is something to undo; and if you undo (which effectively doesn't), the UNDO button again indicates nothing to undo. It's like it THINKS it was successful and "popped the action" off the stack.

Is there any way to actually SEE the list of changes in the undo list?

Man, we HAVE To bring this stuff up the the DEVS -These kinds of things are making Waveform somewhat of a Laughing Stock...

The guys are pretty responsive. I had a gentleman get back to me today and said he would bring up my concerns about the undo/ redo stuff up at their next meeting. They can make the changes. We just have to ask them... Hopefully??

[tmaworks]

On a related note to Peter's last question, quite a few of us have asked for Waveform's undo feature to let us see what it's undoing before we do it--the way many applications do with levels of undo.

I can't tell you how many times I've typed the name into a track--only to discover the focus wasn't in the right pane and suddenly discovered I've inadvertently turned on loop, disabled a key plugin, or turned off automation... with no way of telling later what I just did until it's too late.

An undo feature that lists the last few actions would not only fix that (so I could see what the heck I just did), but would probably eliminate a fair amount of complaints from folks here about "weird bugs" that they themselves may have inadvertently caused by typing a key that did something in the background.

Anyway, given my disappointment with the v12 audio engine, I'd much rather they'd have worked on these issues than tinkering with the 11.5 engine which still works very, very well for me.

I have discovered a DAW which you may have heard of called Soundbridge -It's a little whacky, but it's undo and redo function covers ALL parameters and includes a list so you know what you're doing. Fantastic. Just letting you know.

[tmaworks]

Yeah, and along with the "undo" function, it's nice to have a "redo" function !

I have discovered a DAW which you may have heard of called Soundbridge -It's a little whacky, but it's undo and redo function covers ALL parameters and includes a list so you know what you're doing. Fantastic. Just letting you know.

[tmaworks]

Yeah, and along with the "undo" function, it's nice to have a "redo" function !

Soundbridge Does it. Just discovered this afternoon -It's a little whacky, but it's undo and redo function covers ALL parameters and includes a list so you know what you're doing. Fantastic. FREE

[tmaworks]

I want to thank you for the solutions that all of you have written,
although it seems like a lot of added work.

In any case I appreciate your comments.

Soundbridge DAW. Fantastic undo/ redo function that covers all parameters. It's a little wacky to use, but I'm getting the hang of it...

[tmaworks]

Right, I've just had an idea that might help, though it does sound a bit silly. It might do the job you want.

Every time you want to make adjustments to volume or panning, add another volume+pan plug-in to the track and adjust that instead of the original. If you want to go back to the original settings, just delete the second instance of the volume+pan plug-in.

There is a slight danger that you could end up with a whole string of volume+pan plug-ins on every track...

I just discovered Soundbridge and am giving that a go -Fantastic, all encompassing undo/ redo feature. Gives you a list too, so you know what you're undo/ redoing. It's a little wacky to use, but not too bad for me so far...

[Barth1]

Soundbridge DAW. Fantastic undo/ redo function that covers all parameters. It's a little wacky to use, but I'm getting the hang of it...

I downloaded a version of Soundbridge about a year ago.
At that moment it did not convince me much, although some things I liked, you quickly know where things are. In that aspect it seemed very clear to me.

[tmaworks]

Soundbridge DAW. Fantastic undo/ redo function that covers all parameters. It's a little wacky to use, but I'm getting the hang of it...

I downloaded a version of Soundbridge about a year ago.
At that moment it did not convince me much, although some things I liked, you quickly know where things are. In that aspect it seemed very clear to me.

What didn't you like about it - Out of curiosity?

[pough]

I can't tell you how many times I've typed the name into a track--only to discover the focus wasn't in the right pane and suddenly discovered I've inadvertently turned on loop, disabled a key plugin, or turned off automation... with no way of telling later what I just did until it's too late.

An undo feature that lists the last few actions would not only fix that (so I could see what the heck I just did), but would probably eliminate a fair amount of complaints from folks here about "weird bugs" that they themselves may have inadvertently caused by typing a key that did something in the background.

I recall asking for a "oh shit what I have I done?" feature to list recent hotkey presses for exactly this reason. The response I got seemed to miss the point. They said something about how it's too technically difficult to describe each undo step or something. I wasn't asking about undo steps, just hotkey triggers. I wish I could find the thread but I haven't had much luck with KvR's search features for a while now.

I wonder if they will fix the bug in the save Layout dialog where some key presses are handled as hotkeys even though the text entry is definitely in focus...

[Watchful]

Yes, that's exactly what happens!

[tmaworks]

Yes, that's exactly what happens!

Just heard back from one of the devs (-or one of the higher ups, maybe?) and he said he's gonna put the undo/ redo dilemma as an expedited thing in their meeting or whatever -Hopefully something comes of it!!

He said they expedite the stuff that gets the most complaints, so... COMPLAIN!!

I have sent 3 emails via their support tab on the Tracktion website. He has been responding to me emails very promptly...

Get on-board peeps!!!

[Barth1]

Soundbridge DAW. Fantastic undo/ redo function that covers all parameters. It's a little wacky to use, but I'm getting the hang of it...

I downloaded a version of Soundbridge about a year ago.
At that moment it did not convince me much, although some things I liked, you quickly know where things are. In that aspect it seemed very clear to me.

What didn't you like about it - Out of curiosity?

Well, I don't remember exactly, I work a lot with MIDI, and I seem to remember that I couldn't maximize the piano roll, I like to work with the piano roll in full screen, I think that in the version that I tried I couldn't mute notes, and the interface, I feel more comfortable with the Waveform or Reaper interface, a matter of taste. There were something else but I don't remember now.

But I did not have the feeling that it is a bad DAW. I liked how I said the structure and order in things. I don't know how it is now in the current version.

[tmaworks]

Hmm...

Undterstood!

Yeah -I don't use any midi, so maybe that's why I kinda like it?? I did see a small midi tutorial on it the other day, however, and it did look VERY capable in that department. Still, though. If I know anything, it's that find a DAW that does one thing how you like it is very important -I use certain DAWS just for one or two things because I LIKE the way it does THAT ONE THING...

[Watchful]

I've always been curious about Soundbridge because it looks fiendishly easy to use. I've held off on trying it because I popped over to its support forum and, at the time, users were requesting a lot of basic routing things that made me suspect it was still in a very early form. Glad to see it has continued to evolve.

And not to change the topic, but I really appreciated tmaworks' comment the other day that he didn't want to turn Waveform into Reaper. It does seem that people get fed up with one DAW, try Waveform and like it, but then request that Waveform modify itself to become like the DAW they hate! I was glad to read tmaworks also has spotted this. I got a good chuckle out of that.