wanting new gear is procrastination also …

[vurt]

using your old gear, is just procrastination when you could be buying new gear.

[zerocrossing]

Things are not black and white like this topic makes it out to be. Sure, buying new gear can be a symptom of procrastination, but it is not procrastination. Bing watching a TV series that you’ve already seen twice is procrastination. Playing a video game until you get every single achievement is procrastination. There is a nearly infinite selection of things you can do instead of work on your music.

For instance, I had a friend growing up who saw his friends and brothers starting to play music and form early “bands.” He probably had the best paying job among us, so he went out and bought guitars that were better than anything we had. He had enough motivation to learn a bit, but never really enough to become proficient. He kept buying and selling instruments, good instruments, whenever he got a bee in his bonnet of making a go at making music. Meanwhile, I was basically buying his cast offs. It was such a thing that he once said, “which one of these should I get, since you’ll be the one buying it at some point.”

So, there you go. He was buying to procrastinate, but I was also part of that cycle and I was actually doing it. He actually switched to photography and more or less did the same thing, but got better at photography, but what he was really good at was buying and selling things, and he eventually got into photography retail and does quite well as VP of sales of a large high end photography company.

Meanwhile, I only started making money doing music recently. Most never see much money from it, even if they’re great. The music industry isn’t some meritocracy. The only thing I’ve learned is that you should do what makes you happy and fulfilled, because regardless of how good you are, you may languish in obscurity while mediocre talents land record deals. Long ago I figured out that I have two loves. Making music and buying gear. Sure, the buying takes me away from making music, but I find it inspiring. One of my favorite pastimes is getting a new synth, especially one with novel features, and just going though the presets and noodling about with each one. It’s almost like meditation. I often get inspired by a preset that’s something that I probably would have never thought of on my own. Sometimes they’re not really anything I’d ever use in an actual track, but just fun to noodle about with. Even a bad preset can inspire me by driving me to “fix” it. My Dominion 1 has one of the worst sets of presets I’ve ever experienced on a synth. Maybe they weren’t factory presets, as I bought it used, but they were nearly all unusable. It inspired me to fix each one so I had an instrument full of good presets, yet most of the time I’ll start with my first “init” preset and start from there. My fixing wasn’t futile, though. It taught me the ins-and-outs of that synth so now I’m so intimate with it that I can get the results I want very quickly.

[Uncle E]

you have to find joy in what you have already first , like that tv or that couch you had for 8 years then get something new when you need it , or maybe at least start getting some use out of it or better at the game a bit before u upgrade

Bro, this is all of life. It’s the human condition. It goes way beyond consumerism. Entire religions deal with it. Exodus 20:17, etc.

People are memetic. We see something we don’t have that others perceive as valuable and we want it. A dog is enjoying a bone, it sees another dog enjoying a bone and now it wants that dog’s bone instead of its own.

[harryupbabble]

it's only a wish if you don't have the disposable cash

soon after i win the lotto, i'm a gonna buy a mansion
to put all that goodies in
a grand piano, for a start

and procrastinate 'til i die
and hopefully i will relive as an elephant
in a part of the jungle where no humans will know about

more wishing, i guess

[vurt]

i procrastinated earlier and bought some new gear

[harryupbabble]

is it from amazon and will fit in your butt?
i'm kidding

[vurt]

is it from amazon and will fit in your butt?
i'm kidding

no. not this order.
happy with my tentacle thanks

[harryupbabble]

will that fit in your butt, vurt?

i might order it, to give my gerbils company
not really

[neverbefore]

you have to find joy in what you have already first , like that tv or that couch you had for 8 years then get something new when you need it , or maybe at least start getting some use out of it or better at the game a bit before u upgrade

Bro, this is all of life. It’s the human condition. It goes way beyond consumerism. Entire religions deal with it. Exodus 20:17, etc.

People are memetic. We see something we don’t have that others perceive as valuable and we want it. A dog is enjoying a bone, it sees another dog enjoying a bone and now it wants that dog’s bone instead of its own.

that's envy, consumerism is different. Here's a history https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2021 ... onsumerist

[vurt]

will that fit in your butt, vurt?

i might order it, to give my gerbils company
not really

well, i didn't really order it, but that's what it was advertised as, so id imagine it fits. at least the end.

[tundra5]

Things are not black and white like this topic makes it out to be. Sure, buying new gear can be a symptom of procrastination, but it is not procrastination. Bing watching a TV series that you’ve already seen twice is procrastination. Playing a video game until you get every single achievement is procrastination. There is a nearly infinite selection of things you can do instead of work on your music.

For instance, I had a friend growing up who saw his friends and brothers starting to play music and form early “bands.” He probably had the best paying job among us, so he went out and bought guitars that were better than anything we had. He had enough motivation to learn a bit, but never really enough to become proficient. He kept buying and selling instruments, good instruments, whenever he got a bee in his bonnet of making a go at making music. Meanwhile, I was basically buying his cast offs. It was such a thing that he once said, “which one of these should I get, since you’ll be the one buying it at some point.”

So, there you go. He was buying to procrastinate, but I was also part of that cycle and I was actually doing it. He actually switched to photography and more or less did the same thing, but got better at photography, but what he was really good at was buying and selling things, and he eventually got into photography retail and does quite well as VP of sales of a large high end photography company.

Meanwhile, I only started making money doing music recently. Most never see much money from it, even if they’re great. The music industry isn’t some meritocracy. The only thing I’ve learned is that you should do what makes you happy and fulfilled, because regardless of how good you are, you may languish in obscurity while mediocre talents land record deals. Long ago I figured out that I have two loves. Making music and buying gear. Sure, the buying takes me away from making music, but I find it inspiring. One of my favorite pastimes is getting a new synth, especially one with novel features, and just going though the presets and noodling about with each one. It’s almost like meditation. I often get inspired by a preset that’s something that I probably would have never thought of on my own. Sometimes they’re not really anything I’d ever use in an actual track, but just fun to noodle about with. Even a bad preset can inspire me by driving me to “fix” it. My Dominion 1 has one of the worst sets of presets I’ve ever experienced on a synth. Maybe they weren’t factory presets, as I bought it used, but they were nearly all unusable. It inspired me to fix each one so I had an instrument full of good presets, yet most of the time I’ll start with my first “init” preset and start from there. My fixing wasn’t futile, though. It taught me the ins-and-outs of that synth so now I’m so intimate with it that I can get the results I want very quickly.

“Most never see much money from it, even if they’re great. The music industry isn’t some meritocracy”


who says there great ?
if a lot of people said there great wouldn’t they be earning

i don’t get statements like this ie
someone who can play piano amazing
or guitar amazing is really good

but great has to do with achieving stuff
and to do that you have to build something people want
if your amazing at guitar and pulling off solos on your own is not gonna matter if your singer sucks ( or thinks he is much better than he actually is )

i’m a firm believer if you build it they will come

if you have something that makes people stop talking and watch
you have it , it’s not defined by how good you are you can’t define it
truly you wont even know you have it until things start happening

and even then people will say “you great “

and you may think “ i can only play 8 chords “

it doesn’t matter in the masses eyes you have achieved success which equals greatness

even if you aren’t that good

and someone much more talented than you says

“ oh i’m much better than that famous person “

they will laugh at you because he has achieved success he is great

but good is a different matter
we can all get good at an instrument if we dedicate our time

and yes some people seem more talented and surpass others
but they don’t always go on to become great
sometimes there lost in mediocrity
because they just don’t have it

and that is a bitter pill to swallow and the hard truth

it isn’t about luck as much as we may think


and about your friend that is procrastination

[tundra5]

you have to find joy in what you have already first , like that tv or that couch you had for 8 years then get something new when you need it , or maybe at least start getting some use out of it or better at the game a bit before u upgrade

Bro, this is all of life. It’s the human condition. It goes way beyond consumerism. Entire religions deal with it. Exodus 20:17, etc.

People are memetic. We see something we don’t have that others perceive as valuable and we want it. A dog is enjoying a bone, it sees another dog enjoying a bone and now it wants that dog’s bone instead of its own.

i get you and this is correct
but not of everyone
some people get an old guitar and just get good on it then when there actually good they get something else

where as some people get something don’t even learn it then want something else in the hope it will inspire them or make them
better and it won’t that’s procrastination
or it could be it ain’t for you etc

but some people buy into consumerism much more than others

we are all guilty of it
kids are the worst
as soon as they get that toy it becomes a meaningless piece of garbage

it’s just the “ ohhh wouldnt that be great if i had it

but when you become an adult we understand this for the most part but yes me and you we all still do it


but it really can be bad bad procrastination.

[whyterabbyt]

but great has to do with achieving stuff
and to do that you have to build something people want

bull.

[vurt]

enough procrastination!
let's hear something tundra

[Uncle E]

that's envy, consumerism is different. Here's a history https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2021 ... onsumerist