lol I immediately thought of ThermoWasteLand wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:29 pm luckily still 'experimental' effects around and this one bought without demoing. will certainly be used, in many ways... (as insert after Fundamental 3; irony; or an extremely bad joke, or a revenge by mangiling Fundamental???)
AudioThing Lines - Hainbach's Experimental Feedback Multieffect v1.1
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- KVRAF
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- 2034 posts since 13 Apr, 2011 from EU
Yes, exactly this.elassi wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:15 pmWhat I can think of (while not being an expert at all): The device simulated disturbance in - at that time somewhat new - digital transmissions and their unwanted side-effects to help engineers tackle those problems.![]()
We found a patent for (I think) a previous version of the unit we analyzed: https://patents.google.com/patent/US3930209A/en
A transmission line simulator which is capable of simulating a variety of transmission lines. In addition to simulating the specified characteristics of these transmission lines, the simulator is also capable of simulating a number of random transmission line effects which are especially important to digital data transmission
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You can use your own samples with noises?
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- KVRAF
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See page 9 in the manual: https://www.audiothing.net/docs/AudioThing_Noises.pdf
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Watch Valter Vincenti blend his guitar skills with Lines!
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- KVRist
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Glad I watched that because it is the first one that didn't just make bird noises.
youtube.com/@manymanyhaha/live
- KVRAF
- 3017 posts since 8 Jun, 2018
haha, Lines is also a plugin that you must 'tame', i.e. learn, this is from Hainbach himself, from facebook;neverbefore wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:55 pmlol I immediately thought of ThermoWasteLand wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:29 pm luckily still 'experimental' effects around and this one bought without demoing. will certainly be used, in many ways... (as insert after Fundamental 3; irony; or an extremely bad joke, or a revenge by mangiling Fundamental???)
"Modeling a non-musical device as an effect/ instrument plug-in is definitely not an easy sell. Especially since AudioThing and me did not simplify the Axel Line Simulator, we just made it more fun an enjoyable to discover interesting sonic worlds with it. You have to be a little mad to unlock all its potential, so here is "getting started" guide for the feedback part of it.
Feedback is influenced by many factors, and it can quickly add up and become a wild mess. But It absolutely possible to get stable and reliable feedback every time if you get a feel for what each engine does. A good way is to start from scratch:
Open the INIT patch and turn the pulse sequencer on. Set a pulse on every odd step. Turn on the frequency shifter and set it to around 530. Set feedback to max. You should hear a resonant ping with every pulse. Slowly open the input - a stable feedback tone appears and you can shape its tone with gain.
Set it back to middle position. Turn on 2nd order distortion, slowly open it up. Get a feel for the different resonance that brings. Turn it down again and engage 3rd order distortion. Turn that up , flip the phase, listen to what happens. At any point you can dial down feedback and up the distortion to get different colors of feedback, as only certain frequencies are excited.
You can tune the feedback with the low pass filter next to it. Open it up for wild sputtering, lower it for deep basses.
Engage the line filters. Add more gain on the input if you don’t hear resonances, or up the hi and low q. Now play around with the frequency shifter.
This should give you a good starting point t. It takes a while to learn but it is a huge palette of colors to explore."
but the main reason i mention Fundamental was that i started as collab with Hainbach, but something happened (i don't know really what happened), and Hainbach isn't associated with it anymore, nor he likes to be associated with it...
o well, al those fights.
Thermo (2) with Lines, is great setup.
or with Oceanic..
or anything, me thinks, samples....
Primoridal Music: sadà\exposadà - Indusrial & Expanding Your Mind Hurts: Sound Brut
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great tips from Hainbach, thanks WasteLand. I did not remember hainbah's connection with Fundamental. Shame that collab with Sinan broke up.WasteLand wrote: Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:41 pmhaha, Lines is also a plugin that you must 'tame', i.e. learn, this is from Hainbach himself, from facebook;neverbefore wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:55 pmlol I immediately thought of ThermoWasteLand wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:29 pm luckily still 'experimental' effects around and this one bought without demoing. will certainly be used, in many ways... (as insert after Fundamental 3; irony; or an extremely bad joke, or a revenge by mangiling Fundamental???)
"Modeling a non-musical device as an effect/ instrument plug-in is definitely not an easy sell. Especially since AudioThing and me did not simplify the Axel Line Simulator, we just made it more fun an enjoyable to discover interesting sonic worlds with it. You have to be a little mad to unlock all its potential, so here is "getting started" guide for the feedback part of it.
Feedback is influenced by many factors, and it can quickly add up and become a wild mess. But It absolutely possible to get stable and reliable feedback every time if you get a feel for what each engine does. A good way is to start from scratch:
Open the INIT patch and turn the pulse sequencer on. Set a pulse on every odd step. Turn on the frequency shifter and set it to around 530. Set feedback to max. You should hear a resonant ping with every pulse. Slowly open the input - a stable feedback tone appears and you can shape its tone with gain.
Set it back to middle position. Turn on 2nd order distortion, slowly open it up. Get a feel for the different resonance that brings. Turn it down again and engage 3rd order distortion. Turn that up , flip the phase, listen to what happens. At any point you can dial down feedback and up the distortion to get different colors of feedback, as only certain frequencies are excited.
You can tune the feedback with the low pass filter next to it. Open it up for wild sputtering, lower it for deep basses.
Engage the line filters. Add more gain on the input if you don’t hear resonances, or up the hi and low q. Now play around with the frequency shifter.
This should give you a good starting point t. It takes a while to learn but it is a huge palette of colors to explore."
but the main reason i mention Fundamental was that i started as collab with Hainbach, but something happened (i don't know really what happened), and Hainbach isn't associated with it anymore, nor he likes to be associated with it...
o well, al those fights.
Thermo (2) with Lines, is great setup.
or with Oceanic..
or anything, me thinks, samples....
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This audio... thing is a lot of fun.
Thanks Audiothing & Hainbach
(Vurt pretends to never answer the line, but you can clearly hear him breathe if you dial in the right settings)
I'd like a morse code generator, BTW (real morse code would be a bonus; MIDI out to trigger drums would be great).
And, as goes without saying, an Axel Space Line Simulator (even rarer than the single unit terrestrial version, so it must be warm and boutique, despite being purely imaginary in every other aspect)
Thanks Audiothing & Hainbach
(Vurt pretends to never answer the line, but you can clearly hear him breathe if you dial in the right settings)
I'd like a morse code generator, BTW (real morse code would be a bonus; MIDI out to trigger drums would be great).
And, as goes without saying, an Axel Space Line Simulator (even rarer than the single unit terrestrial version, so it must be warm and boutique, despite being purely imaginary in every other aspect)
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- 2034 posts since 13 Apr, 2011 from EU
Update v1.1
You can download the update from your user area.
Changelog:
You can download the update from your user area.
Changelog:
- Added: Oversampling
- Added: Graphics Controls (Brightness and Contrast)
- Added: macOS 14 Sonoma support
- Improved: Pulse Sequencer host sync
- Improved: Preset browsing avoids loud clicks
- Fixed: Crash with samplerate lower than 44.1kHz
- Fixed: Random crash in VCV Host
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