Exporting NO compressed files is so 1700's.mandolarian wrote: mp3 is soooo last century.
T2: HOW 'BOUT MP3???
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
I'd like export directly to OGG. I can do without MP3, mind you.
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
time for my usual (since sascha frank hasnt turned up to mention it) point that makes .mp3 next to useless for even collaboration ...
... .mp3 encoding ADDS a little bit of silence to the start of your audio so if you work directly with that .mp3 EVERYTHING goes to cock with your timing ... if you convert those .mp3s to .wav you have to fart about either editing the silence out or shifting the audio in your sequencer to make it fit ...
... WHAT A FUKCING PAIN IN THE ARSE ...
... neither .ogg nor .flac add this silence (in fact AFAIK no other compression method does)
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... .mp3 encoding ADDS a little bit of silence to the start of your audio so if you work directly with that .mp3 EVERYTHING goes to cock with your timing ... if you convert those .mp3s to .wav you have to fart about either editing the silence out or shifting the audio in your sequencer to make it fit ...
... WHAT A FUKCING PAIN IN THE ARSE ...
... neither .ogg nor .flac add this silence (in fact AFAIK no other compression method does)
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- KVRAF
- 37521 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Doesn't Ableton support using mp3's directly imported into tracks now? That could be a problem if you're playing live. Does it automatically trim off the silence then?pHz wrote:time for my usual (since sascha frank hasnt turned up to mention it) point that makes .mp3 next to useless for even collaboration ...
... .mp3 encoding ADDS a little bit of silence to the start of your audio so if you work directly with that .mp3 EVERYTHING goes to cock with your timing ... if you convert those .mp3s to .wav you have to fart about either editing the silence out or shifting the audio in your sequencer to make it fit ...
... WHAT A FUKCING PAIN IN THE ARSE ...
... neither .ogg nor .flac add this silence (in fact AFAIK no other compression method does)
slainte
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
thats a VERY good question ...
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
and the answer is a big fat NO ...pHz wrote:thats a VERY good question ...
original drumloop .wav ...
converted to .mp3 using LAME codec ...
.mp3 version of loop imported into live 5 ...
hmmmnnn ...
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Hmmmmnnnn.... Ableton surely needs to address that.
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
couldnt see anything on their forum after a quick search so ive reproduced my post above over there ...
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
I imagine it would be a serious pain to fix as it happens. MP3 is MP3. It has trade offs and problems that the user needs to balance against portability. Ogg *is* a better fornat, but even there you will have have functional limitations as a result of using ogg files that wav does not exhibit.Lunch Money wrote:Hmmmmnnnn.... Ableton surely needs to address that.
I don't really see that as ableton's problem. Especially when in most places >1MBps Internet access can be had for less that the price of Live per year, moving large files around is really not going to be a problem in the near future.
Someone shot the food. Remember: don't shoot food!
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
true (and i said as much over on the live forum when i posted the issue) ... but a less technically aware live user not aware of this .mp3 issue might well end up blaming ableton for their timing problems ...
... at the very least they ought to inform / remind people of this 'limitation' of .mp3 in their manuals ???
slainte rob
... at the very least they ought to inform / remind people of this 'limitation' of .mp3 in their manuals ???
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- KVRAF
- 10815 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from UK
the option to record in ogg would be kool 
but only if jules can implement it in 5 min's, would still rather folder tracks or snapshots
Subz
but only if jules can implement it in 5 min's, would still rather folder tracks or snapshots
Subz
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Regarding MP3-- It can't be THAT hard of a fix...? When Live knows that it's importing an MP3, it just offsets the time a bit and snips it to the right size.
Or am I missing something?
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
well ... for a start ... what if theres INTENDED silence at the start of a loop ???
(although if the bit of silence .mp3 adds is a constant size that could be worked round)
slainte rob
(although if the bit of silence .mp3 adds is a constant size that could be worked round)
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rob