Tracktion Software

Cosmic Bandito · Post by **Cosmic Bandito** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:18 pm

The bottom line is Jules has been working his ass off to bring this great, innovative product to fruition. I think jules himself underestimated how long it would take to incorporate all the featues he wanted (and keep it stable, port to multple formats etc,etc,etc..) but he's just human...can't fault him fot that. He alluded to this himself in this month's CM interview.

It's little sad though the whiners have taken over the tracktion forum. Every time I check here, there's someone hassling Beno (and Jules indirectly). Probably because there hasn't been much interesting to talk about during the last year since it's really just been a matter Jules coding his ass off. Hope this place gets back to what it once was after T2 (A place for fun interesting discussion).

Personally, I just forgot about T2 for a while and just check here every few months. Looks like it's finally coming

, and I can wait a few more weeks.

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:23 pm

Dude im not a whiner now see i informed people and apparently look beno says he will miss a big t2 day in early april.

BAM!

RONC

SuitcaseOfLizards · Post by **SuitcaseOfLizards** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 6:46 pm

Ok, let me throw in something from the hardware world..

I own a Roland Fantom X6 now. I've been researching the thing, and come to discover (early last week) there's a paid update that adds audio tracks to the onboard sequencer. Now, I've been registered a while.. Roland didn't send me shit, I had to find this out on Websites. Bought it, installed it, and I'm happy - I have more than I expected, even if I didn't get notified of the thing's availability.

I didn't buy the damn thing thinking that I'd get an upgrade. It has quirks, but out of the box does what I need.. and more!.. to make music. There are rumors of more upgrades.. but that's it, Roland isn't talking.

You aren't going to hear me whine, bitch, moan, and complain that the sample handling is cumbersome and I expect Roland to fix it ASAP.. because it's just a bother, not a showstopper.

And, as has been said, software typically doesn't ship on time. Look at games, they ship late *and* packed with bugs, sometimes a patch is released a day after the product hits the shelves! You want to be working with buggy, released-too-soon software that could potentially lose your work? I sure as hell don't!

Bah! Back to my Fantom. You complainers, go make music or switch. Gaah!

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 6:57 pm

Anybody who's been waiting since November has nobody but the RMS forum userbase to blame.

WE'RE the ones who started yammering on about it back then.

Greg

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:50 pm

Ron, no offense, but do you REALLY think it was YOU that caused Beno to say this? Sure......

Koolkeys

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:56 pm

Nice Emiril reference, though.

valley · Post by **valley** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:31 pm

Emiril is a w@nker.

h2ogun99 · Post by **h2ogun99** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:02 am

I know I always seem to bring this up...but...I did'nt buy T1. I bought this fantastic program that was being shaped right before my eyes. I bought (and had several of my friends) a programmer who was making our dream host come true. We would check back several times a day just to see what was next. Remember those days? Making a suggestion and then a day later using it?? That is what many of the first users bought into. That is why there is so much passion. I think these expectations are not as zealous with other hosts. I felt that my $$ was an investment in Jules. I would have gladly given him more. I guess that is what is painful for some of us. We now have T2 as the only thing to hold on to, knowing that 'the good old days' have past. I guess our expectations were based on the past (which is wrong) but explains the passion.

Lance

bk · Post by bk » Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:46 am

braj wrote: Timestrech sure didn't work as I expected, I actually bought it thinking that would get fixed.

The cardinal rule:
Never buy software for what it may one day be able to do.
Timestretch isn't really broken...just sounds shite.

The demo version sounds *exactly* as crappy as the purchased version.

braj · Post by **braj** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:52 am

bk wrote:
braj wrote: Timestrech sure didn't work as I expected, I actually bought it thinking that would get fixed.
The cardinal rule:
Never buy software for what it may one day be able to do.
Timestretch isn't really broken...just sounds shite.
The demo version sounds *exactly* as crappy as the purchased version.

At the time I bought it, new builds were appearing constantly, things were getting fixed constantly, new features were still being added. It wasn't a terrible assumption to make at the time. After the Mackie deal, things definitely changed in that regard.

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:59 am

braj wrote: After the Mackie deal, things definitely changed in that regard.

To look at it another way: maybe the Mackie deal wasn't possible until the initial mad dash to add the core features was over.

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:19 am

Again, nobody has found any PROMISED features. And you won't find any. Go back to the archives of this forum. You bought the software, and you got what you paid for(and much more IMHO). If you say you bought the software with the expectation that something would be added, then you made the mistake, not Jules or Mackie.

Koolkeys

braj · Post by **braj** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:57 am

platinumears wrote:
braj wrote: After the Mackie deal, things definitely changed in that regard.
To look at it another way: maybe the Mackie deal wasn't possible until the initial mad dash to add the core features was over.

Sure, Jules could have been doing all that to bait some big company to buy it, I suppose. Somehow I doubt that. I think it's just the difference between a nimble fighter and a powerful fighter. Jules could dodge and weave before Mackie, but now there's more weight behind each punch. At least in regards to gaining market share. I"m not sure how many features in T2 were really dependent on a Mackie buyout/partnership/whatever. Maybe the bundling deal, but plenty of users could live without that.

::sorry if the above makes no sense, I have a cold and headache::

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:20 am

braj wrote:I"m not sure how many features in T2 were really dependent on a Mackie buyout/partnership/whatever.

Every single feature in T2 depended on Jules feeling confident that there was a future in it for him.

braj · Post by **braj** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:24 am

platinumears wrote:
braj wrote:I"m not sure how many features in T2 were really dependent on a Mackie buyout/partnership/whatever.

I don't think that's good for your head, dude.

Anyway, if there was never a Mackie deal, would he have stopped development?

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