2.1 feature requests

[IIRs]

Render a track, mute the source in T. Go do automation on the rendered track, later realize you want to change the source note data, then you have to go redo all that stuff. Maybe you can copy the automation from one track to another in T,

Yes you can copy automation, but why bother when you can drop the newly rendered audio onto the original track, or drag the automated filter to the new one?

btw, my objection to your freeze request is not just from some "fanboy" stance, but because it would seriously compromise the current freeze function: at the moment freeze works for edits that have maxed out the hard drive speed as well as the cpu: freezing each track to a seperate file would break this, and could even mean that edits which use a lot of audio tracks already glitch more after the freeze process than before..

[braj]

Yes you can copy automation, but why bother when you can drop the newly rendered audio onto the original track, or drag the automated filter to the new one?

Replacing the original midi with the rendered audio makes it impossible to go back later to the midi, so it isn't a freeze. And do you drag the volume filters, pan, etc, everything to the new track? Anyway, seems like a mess IMO and not easier. LOL, and people complain Logic is hard to deal with.

And I understand the problem dealing with two types of freeze, but that isn't my problem from a user perspective. IMO Logic's way is superior, and I'd love to see it implemented. It's for Jules to figure out if it is possible or not.

BTW, I freeze a gang of tracks in Logic and my HD doesn't complain a bit. My disk meter in Logic barely moves at all. Nearly nothing. So I don't see that there's a great issue with doing it on a per track basis, except for backwards compatibility with old edits. You could have a preference per edit that allowed you to use one or the other, but not both to keep everything running smoothly though, if it was impossible to implement otherwise.

[braj]

Actually, I'm thinking about it and I see no reason T couldn't do both at the same time, and be compatible with old edits. You are just rendering audio to different tracks after all.

[IIRs]

You are just rendering audio to different tracks after all.

EXACTLY! Use the bloody render function!

[haydxn]

Yes you can copy automation, but why bother when you can drop the newly rendered audio onto the original track, or drag the automated filter to the new one?

Replacing the original midi with the rendered audio makes it impossible to go back later to the midi, so it isn't a freeze. And do you drag the volume filters, pan, etc, everything to the new track? Anyway, seems like a mess IMO and not easier. LOL, and people complain Logic is hard to deal with.

that's not what he meant; if you make automation lines for the rendered audio track, you can keep them with the re-rendered audio by dragging the new audio to the other one.. i.e. the audio track with the automation already on.

[braj]

Yes you can copy automation, but why bother when you can drop the newly rendered audio onto the original track, or drag the automated filter to the new one?

Replacing the original midi with the rendered audio makes it impossible to go back later to the midi, so it isn't a freeze. And do you drag the volume filters, pan, etc, everything to the new track? Anyway, seems like a mess IMO and not easier. LOL, and people complain Logic is hard to deal with.

that's not what he meant; if you make automation lines for the rendered audio track, you can keep them with the re-rendered audio by dragging the new audio to the other one.. i.e. the audio track with the automation already on.

OK, got it. But still more convoluted than Logic.

[ceenda]

Oooooh ooooh, I forgot.

MIDI Clip Ghosting

The one feature I miss the most from energyXT, Podium, etc. Instead of just copying MIDI clips, it would be nice to have ghost instances of that clip, so you only need to make a modification to one of them to change all of them. Bring a little pattern-sequencing joy to Tracktion.

[braj]

You are just rendering audio to different tracks after all.

EXACTLY! Use the bloody render function!

And deal with a bunch of muted tracks? How elegant! Or keep everything archived in some old edit. That works well, how simple! Which edit was it now, let me try and remember...

Geez, you guys...

[IIRs]

OK, got it. But still more convoluted than Logic.

Imagine you did reach the point in where you had too many audio tracks for your HD to keep up (and consider for a moment those people running 5000rpm laptop drives) Logic's freeze function would be useless: Tracktion's would be perfect.

[braj]

Oooooh ooooh, I forgot.

MIDI Clip Ghosting

The one feature I miss the most from energyXT, Podium, etc. Instead of just copying MIDI clips, it would be nice to have ghost instances of that clip, so you only need to make a modification to one of them to change all of them. Bring a little pattern-sequencing joy to Tracktion.

Yeah, that works really well in Logic! as well

[braj]

OK, got it. But still more convoluted than Logic.

Imagine you did reach the point in where you had too many audio tracks for your HD to keep up (and consider for a moment those people running 5000rpm laptop drives) Logic's freeze function would be useless: Tracktion's would be perfect.

And how many would that have to be? I have a 7200 HD in my lappy, but it used to be 4200 a few months ago and I demo'd Logic fine with that, and since my laptop is slow as shit one of the features I tested most was the freeze. It worked nicely with 20+ tracks frozen.

Just imagine

Again, I'm not dissing Tracktion, I just don't understand this desire to defend it at every turn. Especially when it isn't being attacked. You're in every thread on KVR trying to slay the dragons of dissent! Is Jules giving you backrubs after working hours or something ? <<--- Light-hearted smily if you didn't notice.

[diverdee]

ghost clips would be nice, ability to select & move midi cc automation regions would be nice It would be cool if one could Shift & click on a cc automation point & then move it like you now can with the vst automation (which is a very welcome addition), user created quantize maps - ripped from midi files would be nice, folder tracks would be very useful. These are constructive criticism's/hopes for future features - I also am not dissing T2, i like it so far, T is heading in the right direction as far as i'm concerned. If those with a fanboy mentality want to attack, fair enough (& I am not accusing any1 at all of having that mentality yet).

[soulata]

Let's make a feature suggestion thread a sticky. Not this one I mean. Let's make it as one entry and let the mods update it.

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[pdxindy]

How about an option when you freeze whether to add it to the other frozen tracks as one file, or freeze it as a separate file (with ability to adjust volume, mute/solo etc)

Freeze and render are the same basic thing with different options. Add this option, and it is a complete feature that addresses everyones concerns. It is not either/or.

[hao nao]

I agree about an option to have the midi toolbar appear at either the top or the bottom of the clip, for editing notes in reference to another clip ... I'm sure people differ regarding whether they like to have the reference clip above or below