My ULTIMATE Reverb ----- UAD-1 Plate 140

[billybk1]

I do don't see the advantage of having to buy a seretae card for my fx. better invest the money on a stronger cpu and native plugins.

I would never suggest anyone buy a UAD-1 DSP card for the native CPU savings. Although, that is a very nice bonus. It is for the quality of the plugin algo's, which, in most cases, especially with the classic vintage plugins, there are no native equivalants (LA-2A, 1176LN, Pultec EQ, Pultec Pro, Fairchild 670, EMT PLate 140). The plugin algorithms are so DSP intensive, that a UA tech was quoted as saying that if they faithfully ported their plugins for native VST, it would only take 4-5 plugins to bring a G5 to it's knees. Cripes, I can run 16-25 UAD-1 plugins, (I have 2 UAD-1 cards), on my puny (4) year ol' PIII 1Ghz DAW and my total native CPU usage, is less than 10%
If UA ever did port their plugins to VST native (which I doubt), people would be complaining how much CPU they consume You would need a 5Ghz CPU to get the kind of performance I get from just (1) UAD-1 DSP card, on a P3 1GHz CPU.
.....and I've got (2) DSP cards!

[MickGael]

And yet (as far as I know) they have no plans to release a firewire version.

To hell with those laptop owners!

[AKJ]

I would never suggest anyone buy a UAD-1 DSP card for the native CPU savings. Although, that is a very nice bonus. It is for the quality of the plugin algo's, which, in most cases, especially with the classic vintage plugins, there are no native equivalants (LA-2A, 1176LN, Pultec EQ, Pultec Pro, Fairchild 670, EMT PLate 140).

I am quite happy with my voxengo plugs (crunchessor, soniformer, glisseq, curveeq, transmodder, elephant, warmifier, lampthruster etc.). what is more there are many very good free native plugins (like the stuff from digitalfishphones or the buzzroom compressors and limiters). And it might be true that at this point average cpus are too weak for a heavy load of high quality audio fx, but it's just a matter of time or money, 'cause a dual cpu will do the job. and a uad card is not free, or is it?

best, akj

ps: what will do do when next generation pcs will no more have slots for your uad cards? if it's pure software it's easier: you just have to write a wrapper and can use your old plugins (even in the very unlikely case that the vst-standard is completely dropped one day)

[dharmawan]

...my homebrew software reverb ...

sorry for some clicks, pops and jitter ...

X

sounds really good, which reverb is this?

[away from home]

...my homebrew software reverb ...

sorry for some clicks, pops and jitter ...

X

sounds really good, which reverb is this?

Thanks, I have spent a lot of time making this setup and configuration to combine software to make a reverb with 3D feelings.

Energy XT as host, a modified Ni Reaktor ens for some special amp and freq envelope channel splittings (1 ens), UAD for reverb eq (3 pultec pro) and 5 convolution reverbs (SIR)

Its (in total) a dynamic convolutions reverb, but I have no clue if I step on some patents or not ?

total of 90% of cpu on my 2.8 intel... plus 95 % dsp card

i.e. a modular homebrew reverb

[brianbrian]

Yikes, what are the 5 SIR instances doing?

[away from home]

Yikes, what are the 5 SIR instances doing?

they have eq and reverb impulses laoded to convolute the different dynamics (amps and freqs) == dynamic convolution eq and reverb

[Sascha Franck]

Why don't you just combine everything into one impulse, away from home?

[away from home]

Why don't you just combine everything into one impulse, away from home?

cause I dont have a dynamic convolution engine, and one impulse cant sound the same as the dynamic setup I got !

[AKJ]

I did another version: this time first applying the sonitus dealy with two different very short delay times to give more stereo image to it. then I applied the roomverb m1 (this time with more customized settings). to give a more analog feel I also added some "lampthrusting". finally, I again adjusted vol with elephant.

here's the link: http://www.power-xs.net/download/roomverbm1-v2.mp3

akj

[bmanic]

Thanks, I have spent a lot of time making this setup and configuration to combine software to make a reverb with 3D feelings.

Energy XT as host, a modified Ni Reaktor ens for some special amp and freq envelope channel splittings (1 ens), UAD for reverb eq (3 pultec pro) and 5 convolution reverbs (SIR)

Its (in total) a dynamic convolutions reverb, but I have no clue if I step on some patents or not ?

total of 90% of cpu on my 2.8 intel... plus 95 % dsp card

i.e. a modular homebrew reverb

Could you explain a bit in what way it is 'dynamic' ? does it play trough samples of different room colour or length depending on input volume?

I listened to the file and think it sounds ok but has some weird 'moving' of the guitar in the room. It feels kind of like the early reflections are 'unstable', like the guitarist was moving a bit in fron of the guitar. It's especially noticeable in the end of the file, starting at 1:39. The tonality of the reverb changes in a really weird way.

Cheers!
bManic

[Midiworks]

I mean, why compare processed mp3's ?
It would have been better and more usefull to create
some impulse responses from those reverbs.

Then everybody can try with whatever input signal they want.

[away from home]

I listened to the file and think it sounds ok but has some weird 'moving' of the guitar in the room. It feels kind of like the early reflections are 'unstable', like the guitarist was moving a bit in fron of the guitar. It's especially noticeable in the end of the file, starting at 1:39. The tonality of the reverb changes in a really weird way.

Yes, its due to the "widening effect" inhereted from the splitting/separation process (i.e. phase modulations), its also an effect/artifact from the different reverb impulses used with different tail spaces. I will get a pro reverb impulse cd soon and try some more from the noisevault archive (read Preamp-pipeline )

[away from home]

Could you explain a bit in what way it is 'dynamic' ? does it play trough samples of different room colour or length depending on input volume?

the example is only dynamic in the amplitude domain, my new version has a multiband splitter (3+) and then routed into level separation on each band.

BUT, that means I have to get two new computers and FXteleport to run the extra 10+ reverb impulses on

I hope the effort will make it sound better

EDIT: in all my selfpromoting scribbles I forgot to asnwer the question. Yes, different levels are routed into different reverbs.

[verstaerker]

I am quite happy with my voxengo plugs (crunchessor, soniformer, glisseq, curveeq, transmodder, elephant, warmifier, lampthruster etc.). what is more there are many very good free native plugins (like the stuff from digitalfishphones or the buzzroom compressors and limiters). And it might be true that at this point average cpus are too weak for a heavy load of high quality audio fx, but it's just a matter of time or money, 'cause a dual cpu will do the job. and a uad card is not free, or is it?

best, akj

ps: what will do do when next generation pcs will no more have slots for your uad cards? if it's pure software it's easier: you just have to write a wrapper and can use your old plugins (even in the very unlikely case that the vst-standard is completely dropped one day)

no matter how fast your PC is i don't know any
native vst which is as good as the UAD-1 Fairchild,LA2A,1176,Pultec or Plate-140
- believe me u have to hear it - u will immediately
change your opinion about the plugins u named

maybe in the next years, when the PCs get faster,there will be some same good sounding plugins, but in the meantime i'm very lucky with UAD-1
and the UAD-1 is not expensive - it costs here 385€
with some really good plugins - how many average sounding native-plugins u get for that?