Hmmmm...seems like somebody hasn't actually tried the MDA vocoder. AFAIK the Cubase one is based on the MDA one, except it has access to quite a few more features, one of the most beneficial ones being access to pick any number of bands individually up to the limit.
I've tried pretty well every freebie vocoder out there, and the Cubase (MDA) vocoder is leaps and bounds ahead of what's available. Which to my mind means the original MDA one must at least be half-decent. Which of course it is.
As to the original poster...stick with the Cubase vocoder - it's a real good'un. Cubase included FX are often derided, but several of them are really good quality that stand up to most competition. I prefer the Cubase chorus, midigate, vocoder and multiband to almost all others available, either free or commercial. And the 2 filters give most other filters a good run for their money in terms of basic sound. (Although I wish they'd put a proper GUI on the multiband instead of the stupid one they have at present.)
You get alot more bells and whistles on things like Vokator or whatever it's called, but unless you use vocoders alot I don't think it's worth the extra cash.
Cubase vocoder = MDA vocoder = good.
And being old is a complete irrelevance...I can think of many extremely old technologies and gadgets that are way better than new shite.
Grainy? Not with careful setting up and a full number of bands. It can be incredibly smooth in fact.
any free vocoders?
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- KVRian
- 520 posts since 13 Aug, 2002 from Salzburg, Austria
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- KVRian
- 1325 posts since 1 Sep, 2004
My enumeration cannot simply be reduced to one single point == (old). There were actually some more points, which I "enumerated on demand". In my opinion is this suggestion "not a good one" for some reasons, the reasons, I listed. That's all. IMHO
Here also the official kvr-description:
"Switchable 8 or 16 band vocoder with separate "VocInput" plug-in for adding a pitch-tracked oscillator to input vocals. An earlier and less sophiscticated version of the Cubase Vocoder."
The new Cubase vocoder is quite different (for some certain reasons, which have to do with the VST2 interface, you know?), but never the less not *that* good. And I *am* a Cubase SX user, in fact.
But there are people (without any clue about the real differences), which simply cannot live with other peoples opinion. That's the only problem.
Here also the official kvr-description:
"Switchable 8 or 16 band vocoder with separate "VocInput" plug-in for adding a pitch-tracked oscillator to input vocals. An earlier and less sophiscticated version of the Cubase Vocoder."
The new Cubase vocoder is quite different (for some certain reasons, which have to do with the VST2 interface, you know?), but never the less not *that* good. And I *am* a Cubase SX user, in fact.
But there are people (without any clue about the real differences), which simply cannot live with other peoples opinion. That's the only problem.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35476 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
jackle&hyde quoth
But there are people, which simply cannot live with other peoples opinion. That's the only problem.
True. I said it was good, and you couldnt live with that. I asked you to explain what wasnt good about it, and you couldn't live with that either. I pointed out that some of what you claimed wasn't good had nothing to do with being good or not. And guess wha... you couldnt live with that either.
Go look up the word "hypocrite" in a dictionary. Then get someone to tattoo it on the inside of your eyelids.
But there are people, which simply cannot live with other peoples opinion. That's the only problem.
True. I said it was good, and you couldnt live with that. I asked you to explain what wasnt good about it, and you couldn't live with that either. I pointed out that some of what you claimed wasn't good had nothing to do with being good or not. And guess wha... you couldnt live with that either.
Go look up the word "hypocrite" in a dictionary. Then get someone to tattoo it on the inside of your eyelids.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 943 posts since 15 Mar, 2005
tried another one but doesnt have midi so wasnt very interested.
pretty happy with the results i'm getting from the cubase one, as long as you control the output some what, for instance some shelfs at 50hz and 14k respectively to contain the bandwidth and clear the nasty highs it creates, as oppose to moving the bandwidth controls in the vocoder which change the sound a bit too much. and it needs feeding with fairly undynamic stuff thats been compressed to give it a strong and consistant sound.
i still need to try vokator though, its massive overlkill for the simple robot i want, but so i can gauge possible sound quality better.
NI website seems to be down currently though.
pretty happy with the results i'm getting from the cubase one, as long as you control the output some what, for instance some shelfs at 50hz and 14k respectively to contain the bandwidth and clear the nasty highs it creates, as oppose to moving the bandwidth controls in the vocoder which change the sound a bit too much. and it needs feeding with fairly undynamic stuff thats been compressed to give it a strong and consistant sound.
i still need to try vokator though, its massive overlkill for the simple robot i want, but so i can gauge possible sound quality better.
NI website seems to be down currently though.
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- KVRian
- 866 posts since 30 Jul, 2004
ROTFL!jackle&hyde wrote:Ah yes. Sorry. It should be:
" *Quoth* erat demonstrandum"! Of course!
Jacko, it's not every day we get to see a poster pour lighter fluid on his credibility, set it on fire, then piss on it.