What bollocks.
People vote one way in the poll and then say... "I vote this way cause I like the song but...:" in the thread itself. Look if you have to say but you have NO reason and no business choosing the 3rd option.
Perhaps the poll needs to be expanded to include:
"I vote for any track i like from anyone i feel is part of the in-crowd at K-v-R"
"I discourage others from voting for tracks which i feel violate an as yet undefined 'spirit' of kvr. I have no idea what that spirit is but if i dont like someone for violating it i wont vote for their track."
"I vote for the same people every month because their stuff is consistently of the highest quality and i like what they do. I am not unlike those who only listen to those of high quality on pop radio at the exclusion of less well engineered/produced artists."
NOW THAT would be an HONEST poll.
Voters are influenced?
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- KVRAF
- 1818 posts since 5 Apr, 2002 from Seattle, WA, USA
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- Banned
- 4026 posts since 27 Jan, 2004
I have never voted for a song, nor listened to any entries...guess it's mostly crap anywyays...no music I like...Tell me when there's some fine progressive electronica around and I'll have a listen.
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- KVRian
- 1335 posts since 23 Sep, 2003 from ocation: cation: ation: tion: ion: on: n: :
Too bad there's no "none of the above" option in the poll. When I vote, I don't care about who's voted for me or not, but rather then voting for the "top hits" of the month, I give higher priority to songs that don't get voted much despite being really nice. (Unless the "top hits" are really unresistable). So I am sort of biased.
the the impotence of proofreading
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- KVRAF
- 1818 posts since 5 Apr, 2002 from Seattle, WA, USA
You might be suprised to find some people here make it. But you would know that if you listened.snooky wrote:I have never voted for a song, nor listened to any entries...guess it's mostly crap anywyays...no music I like...Tell me when there's some fine progressive electronica around and I'll have a listen.
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- Banned
- 4026 posts since 27 Jan, 2004
aaaand, how often aren't the "contests" rigged? I 'mean you vote for the incrowd, as LadyJ said, as it's always been within communities...the pop idols get the lions share...only dif is that exprimental bollox is the "pop" around here.
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- Banned
- 4026 posts since 27 Jan, 2004
links?Lady J wrote:You might be suprised to find some people here make it. But you would know that if you listened.snooky wrote:I have never voted for a song, nor listened to any entries...guess it's mostly crap anywyays...no music I like...Tell me when there's some fine progressive electronica around and I'll have a listen.
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- KVRAF
- 3266 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from under the sun
what a clever guess! if crap is everything but "good progressive electronica", i mean.snooky wrote:guess it's mostly crap anywyays...
i like such bollocks.
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- KVRAF
- 9064 posts since 1 Aug, 2003
I've only voted once, as I've only participated once, and I put lots and lots of effort into trying to pick the very best - if need be, by listening over and over to the tracks I like best.
Still, I may remain biased after all, one way or another, I'd prefer submissions to be anonimous.
Still, I may remain biased after all, one way or another, I'd prefer submissions to be anonimous.
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- Banned
- 4026 posts since 27 Jan, 2004
aha..then you have very bad taste in music Wopelka...here have a carrot 
There are but 3 things certain in life:
1. Progressive electronica is the best musical style..way superior to any other.
2. ZynAddSubFx is the best synth ever.
3. Blond girls have more fun!
There are but 3 things certain in life:
1. Progressive electronica is the best musical style..way superior to any other.
2. ZynAddSubFx is the best synth ever.
3. Blond girls have more fun!
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1206 posts since 10 Apr, 2002 from Born, living and probably dying in Germany
snooky wrote:aha..then you have very bad taste in music Wopelka...here have a carrot
There are but 3 things certain in life:
1. Progressive electronica is the best musical style..way superior to any other.
2. ZynAddSubFx is the best synth ever.
3. Blond girls have more fun!
If all what you´ve written in this thread is meant really serious you should take your medicaments. 
Listen to some Monkey-Music-
- KVRAF
- 3299 posts since 7 May, 2004 from Athens, Greece
I took part two and voted three (IIRC) times so my experience is limited. I only voted for what I liked. I think that Jens could "prove" with statistics what he says and I say "prove" because you never prove really with statistics (I know what I am talking about, that's my job). But there would be a strong confounding effect in this result because one tends to like more the kind of music that he produces while at the same time it is more likely to have "friends" at KvR who make similar kind of music as you than the opposite. Not that there are no exceptions but that is the average trend.
If I go insane, please don't put your wires in my brain
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35440 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Lady J quoth What bollocks.
Ironic.
People vote one way in the poll and then say... "I vote this way cause I like the song but...:" in the thread itself.
So? The poll is by necessity a set of fixed options, which will almost certainly fail to cover all possible eventualities. People's comments allow them to provide the necessary level of detail which the poll cannot cover.
Look if you have to say but you have NO reason and no business choosing the 3rd option.
Incorrect. If its the closest option, then yes they bloody do.
Perhaps the poll needs to be expanded to include:
<snip>
NOW THAT would be an HONEST poll.
No, it would just be a finer-grained set of options. You obviously dont understand what 'honest' means. You obviously can't understand that 'fitting as close as possible to a restricted set of options and then explaining my choice in detail' isn't dishonest.
Ironic.
People vote one way in the poll and then say... "I vote this way cause I like the song but...:" in the thread itself.
So? The poll is by necessity a set of fixed options, which will almost certainly fail to cover all possible eventualities. People's comments allow them to provide the necessary level of detail which the poll cannot cover.
Look if you have to say but you have NO reason and no business choosing the 3rd option.
Incorrect. If its the closest option, then yes they bloody do.
Perhaps the poll needs to be expanded to include:
<snip>
NOW THAT would be an HONEST poll.
No, it would just be a finer-grained set of options. You obviously dont understand what 'honest' means. You obviously can't understand that 'fitting as close as possible to a restricted set of options and then explaining my choice in detail' isn't dishonest.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35440 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
snooky quoth aaaand, how often aren't the "contests" rigged? I 'mean you vote for the incrowd, as LadyJ said, as it's always been within communities...the pop idols get the lions share...only dif is that exprimental bollox is the "pop" around here.
Except that experimental stuff rarely does that well in the competitions. So you're talking bollocks.
Except that experimental stuff rarely does that well in the competitions. So you're talking bollocks.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 4074 posts since 28 Apr, 2004
i haven't taken part in the contests for a while now but when i did i didn't vote based on who voted for me...
that said, the contests are entirely subjective, "quality of the song" can mean many things and your vote will certainly be skewed by your own personal taste.
surely thats the point of voting, you choose what you like.
steve.
that said, the contests are entirely subjective, "quality of the song" can mean many things and your vote will certainly be skewed by your own personal taste.
surely thats the point of voting, you choose what you like.
steve.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1206 posts since 10 Apr, 2002 from Born, living and probably dying in Germany
And, AFAIK, it´s not possible to edit poll options after being submitted for a minute or so.whyterabbyt wrote:Lady J quoth Perhaps the poll needs to be expanded to include:
<snip>
NOW THAT would be an HONEST poll.
No, it would just be a finer-grained set of options. You obviously dont understand what 'honest' means. You obviously can't understand that 'fitting as close as possible to a restricted set of options and then explaining my choice in detail' isn't dishonest.