Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!

[Squids]

Hey Squids,
Do you, or sell/make rock drum loops at esoundz/sonicreality? I looked, but everything seems to be geared towards dance. Not that there's anything wrong with dance/hip-hop/techno/etc., but I need rock drums...lol

You just opened the flood gates my friend. http://www.studioprofiles.com We're actually selling a Studio ProFiles Special Edition which has a variety of styles on it including classic rock, blues, progressive rock and even punk rock (courtesy of Cyrus Balooki, the drummer for New Found Glory). We have quite a few different rock drum loop titles coming out both in this series as well as for download on www.esoundz.com

[Squids]

LOL...Putte you're crazy! There are so many conflicting reports on the release of AT2 that I may as well stop asking when I will receive the software. Does anyone know if it will be available as a download?

You'd still need a USB key if it was.

[1991lespaul]

Cool...Thaks for the drum info Squids. And about AT2, just let it speak for itself. Some will love it, like, and some will hate it. That is just the nature of people.....

[Squids]

Cool...Thaks for the drum info Squids. And about AT2, just let it speak for itself. Some will love it, like, and some will hate it. That is just the nature of people.....

Sure, just like any product really.

As for letting it speak for itself... remember I didn't make this plug. Maybe some people will buy one from esoundz (if I am lucky) or perhaps they'll buy it from any of a thousand other stores around the world. All good with me. I just happen to LIKE talking about it and of course a lot of people here enjoy talking about plug-ins so...

[1991lespaul]

Yeah Squids...your right. Well I happen to enjoy your insight into AT2 and the various plugins that you talk about, so keep up the good/positive work. What I meant by my previous comment is that there will always be people who are open-minded and closed-minded, and that is what can make open forum discussions "tricky" at times. I think that you do a tremendous job at keeping a level head, and am looking forwad to more AT2 samples created by you.

[Sascha Franck]

Squids, while I know you're a honest person, things *do* sound like hype.
I mean, a) nobody could tell whether you're right or wrong because the damn thing simply isn't available and b) because you're selling them.

If it was out allready, everybody could be like "oh, if Squids said it's great I'm gonna try the demo".
But as far as the status quo goes, your comments indeed looked a bit exaggerated.

And btw, as far as GR2 goes: I'm sure AT2 will have a hard time beating it.
Unfortunately most presets and the "INIT" patches of the amps don't do it justice. Some of them are overcompressing and occasionally shrill. But once you start to tweak the advanced parameters the thing begins to shine, really.

Even if I usually wouldn't support demos requiring dongles (and I assume the AT2 demo will require one...) I'll be doing some careful a/b-ing once it's out.
And I'm gonna be dead honest about my opinions.

[1991lespaul]

I think that GR2's flexebility is a farce. It looks good, but sounds terrible for any gain work..LOL. IMHO AT1 sounds better than GR2, although it is not as "loaded" as GR1&2.

[1991lespaul]

I do think you're right about the PODXTL Sascha, it may be the way to go, especialy if you don't want to "eat up" precious CPU/RAM.

[Kingston]

So all I am saying is JUST hype to you?

Not all of it, but it makes a tedious read and I, for example, would respect your input much more if it wasn't shaded by the totally unnecessary bragging. Just say it like it is instead of

with 20,000 possible combinations

see? You can count the features of guitar rig, vox tonelab, pod xt and the lot in a similar way and come up with a number like that, but that's just stupid.

I don't have any other plug-ins that have component modeling of this range of vintage gear and integrated within a complete self-contained stomp/amp/rack effect system. Do you?

Yeah, I do. See the previous paragraph.

Oh and anyone who can't "see past the hype" in my posts I invite to just MUTE me. I am tired of defending my position against insulting posts like this. There's no excuse to be rude like that.

Oh I see past the hype and exactly that's the point. Why do you bother with it in the first place? You wouldn't need to defend anything if you just said it like it is, instead of preaching about a world about to be changed.

I don't think I was even being rude.

Would've thought after 200 pages you would've learned something?

[Hink]

I do think you're right about the PODXTL Sascha, it may be the way to go, especialy if you don't want to "eat up" precious CPU/RAM.

I've had mine 8 days now and I'm still smiling...

[Squids]

Sasha, I know you like NI stuff. I do too. But, I really don't think AT2 will have a hard time beating GR2 in most people's eyes. I suppose if you are looking for more modulation routings and stuff like that okay. More of the synth type stuff that NI is awesome at. But, remember that IK does have years more experience in amp modeling which might factor into it a little. But, even just by the specs (not opinions, just the specs) some people might consider it to be better (also less expensive for people who want just the software). As I said though, when it comes to people like yourself and others who may be looking for a PARTICULAR sound then as I said openly it could be ANYHTHING! That means GR2, Waves GTR, AmpliTube 2, a Pod XT, Sansamp, or how about a REAL hardware amp??? That's because above all, above anything you or I or anyone else says it IS still subjective. It ALL depends on what someone is looking for and how focused and specific that is. I think we've both been saying THAT so I am actually agreeing. No hype there... if anything that is me making sure I am not missunderstood as suggesting it for anyone who feels they are in that boat. They should try it out for themselves.

That said, anyone who is not looking for anything specific or the "holy grail" particular guitar amp sound (which of course would be different for every person so it can't really exist universally) but wants a toolkit of modeled amp COMPONENTS and effects then IMO one can't hype AT2 enough. I know to you the modeling of individual guitar amp components is not something you believe in, as you've said, but I DEFINITELY DO and think is TOTALLY AWESOME!!!! Sorry, that's genuine excitement from playing with it this weekend and I happened to have had more time than usual to use it on some music I've been working on. As I was mixing some tracks I felt extremely good about what options there were for getting different sounds in the mix OTHER than using outboard effects or pain in the butt reamping (not to mention loud, I was working at home late at night so it was perfect to be able to do on headphones).

Even with no one having it yet (and that's soon to change finally) I think it is safe to say that a lot of producers, engineers and songwriters can look forward to picking it up without having to try it out first. I mean, there are already tens of thousands of AT1 users who appreciate the amp component modeling and know what to expect so it is backed up by THAT already. So, as much as some people would like to think (for whatever their reason is), I am NOT exaggerating.

Anyway, I like to get people excited about the things I find exciting about them. If that makes them buy it on esoundz then COOL! If not? That's totally fine as well because that is not the ONLY reason I am here to talk (at midnight on a Sunday ). I enjoy helping people with my perspective, experience and contexts of use that I put a LOT of effort into my posts. No one asks me to do it. I just do it because I am fueled by the interest in it and in helping others see how it might be good for them. Hundreds of people have thanked me over the years for doing that on KVR. So, I'll continue to be Squids. How about cutting me some slack will ya?

[Lunch Money]

GR2 certainly isn't the one to beat. After much research, I eventually got a Line 6 product, and while I'm sure there are people who did the opposite ("after trying Line 6 and GR2, I went with GR2"), I know a substantial enough people who feel that GR2 was coming up short by comparison.

I think for many people, Line 6 are still the models to beat, not GR2.

Greg

[Kingston]

Squids, you're a good man, no doubt.



here's a nutcracker of an inside joke for people who liked monkey island.

[1991lespaul]

I have GuitarPort and enjoy it. I am leaning towards purchasing the PODXTL. Again, for the flexebilty of going from computer, to amp, to headphones. It will allow me to record more tracks on the DAW without taxing the CPU. The High-Gain model pack sounds are supposed to be for th e most part excellent, and it also comes with its own ASIO driver. I agree that AT2 needs to "beat" line6 at the game of modeling. I have not purchased the PODXTL yet, as I am waiting on the release of AT2 to do my own comparison between the two. Does anybody know if I can use the PODXTL as just a soundcard (ASIO Drivers to lower latency) to run AT1&2? I am able to plug into GuitarPort and use it as a soundcard to operate AT1/GR2, I am hoping to do the same with PODXTL if I decide to purchase it.

[Squids]

So all I am saying is JUST hype to you?

Not all of it, but it makes a tedious read and I, for example, would respect your input much more if it wasn't shaded by the totally unnecessary bragging. Just say it like it is instead of

with 20,000 possible combinations

see? You can count the features of guitar rig, vox tonelab, pod xt and the lot in a similar way and come up with a number like that, but that's just stupid.

I don't have any other plug-ins that have component modeling of this range of vintage gear and integrated within a complete self-contained stomp/amp/rack effect system. Do you?

Yeah, I do. See the previous paragraph.

Oh and anyone who can't "see past the hype" in my posts I invite to just MUTE me. I am tired of defending my position against insulting posts like this. There's no excuse to be rude like that.

Oh I see past the hype and exactly that's the point. Why do you bother with it in the first place? You wouldn't need to defend anything if you just said it like it is, instead of preaching about a world about to be changed.

I don't think I was even being rude.

Would've thought after 200 pages you would've learned something?

Wait...


"I don't think I was even being rude.
Would've thought after 200 pages you would've learned something?"


Even just after you say the statement itself you make a rude remark? Give me a break! Maybe you don't even REALIZE that you are being rude. Or how about this one:

"that's just stupid."

Stupid???

Okay. Insults aside, let me at least explain so you'll understand better what it is I am talking about. Then you can tell me if your other software plug-ins do this, okay?

In AmpliTube 2 you have models of various famous vintage guitar amps like Fenders, Marshall, Vox, Mesaboogie etc. But, so do some of the other guitar amp sim plug-ins right? What's the big deal then with AT2? You can mix and match the COMPONENTS of the guitar AMP (not just the effects rig but the parts of the amp like the pre-amp, tone section, poweramp/tubes, speaker and cabinet). Because the modeling is essentially modular you can take the modeled preamp of a Vox AC3O going into the modeled tone section of a Marshall into the poweramp of Mesaboogie and then the cabinet of a Fender Twin. You can mix and match those elements up to 20,000 different combinations of THOSE elements. I am just quoting the MATH. That IS telling it how it is. (and btw it isn't "bragging" because I am not in any way responsible for that).

I am wondering if perhaps you were thinking about something different. I am not talking about how many possibilities you can have if you combine just the head and cabinet with all of the effects in different order and configurations. That number would be really high with ANY of the guitar amp sims that have effects. But, the number of composite GUITAR AMPS you can create from the modular elements of the guitar amp itself is not even close in anything else. Or is it?

Will it change the world? Did I say that? No. Is it what I would consider an indespensible tool for producers, engineers and songwriters? In my opinion which I am entitled to, yes, that is what I was saying in that last post. If I didn't back up WHY I think so good enough then let me know.

Finally, like I said, if my posts are tedious to read then I suggest you use the "mute me" feature or just don't read my posts! Simple solution. No one is forcing you. Meanwhile, I will continue to say whatever it is I want to say like I have for years on KVR. If you don't like it then I will silently quote Billy Idol's character in the movie The Doors when he says to Ray "____ ___". Just kidding.