Anyone here who got Omnisphere?

[krraqk]

For those of you who are less interested in the huge library of (apparently) thousands of sound sources and more interested in the complete patches, here's the breakdown by category in the current version (based upon my own, manual, insomniac count).

ARP+Rhythm (214 patches)
Distortion (30 patches)
Keyboards (45 patches)
Modern Hybrid (144 patches)
Oneshot Hits (51 patches)
Psychoacoustic (112 patches)
Retro Underground (61 patches)
SFX and Noise (38 patches)
Synth Classic (41 patches)
Synth Mono (119 patches)
Synth Pads (43 patches)
Textures (42 patches)
Traditional (29 patches)

Thanks for the info.

969 patches is a lot for sure.

But where are the guitar, voice and ethnic patches? or the Hans Zimmer guitars, SOV, VP and Heart of Asia and Africa sources aren't not present in any preset in the release list?

Also I would like to ask if there are some patches of real instruments like electric bass (fretless?), acoustic bass, electric/acoustic piano, brass, woodwinds, etc.

But after all I think that the most important thing for me or what Im really expecting about it is if in the patches is that "magic sound" that one can find in many of the Roland synth patches, something maybe indefinable but also real as it has been the key in the big success of the Roland synths. I dont really care so much about the synthesis engine than if the patches have that something expressive and beautiful that happens when you recall a patch and you keep playing it inspired by the sound because is beautiful, musical and expressive.

With the roots of Mr. Persing in the Roland synths my hope is very high. But its the thing that probably would remain unanswered until I try it personally, but what you, who already own it, think about it, the patches are at that Roland patches level?

I hope that within so many patches there is as much as possible of this magic.

[Per Lichtman]

Eric Persing's patches display the same flair now as they did when created patches for the Roland hardware. With the layering in Omnisphere, it is possible to get a real "workstation sound", not only a Roland workstation sound but others as well.

Many sound sources are not present in the patches themselves. For instance, this is true of many (if not all) sound sources from the original Atmosphere library.

There are some patches from the libraries you mentioned but the raw material is easier to find in the sound sources, where they can be searched by library. For instance "Dynamic Choir Wheel" is a patch that features SOV material but you can't really tell until you look at the soundsources is uses.

[1-2-Many]

Shouldn't it be noted, praised, and applauded that Spectrasonics met their announced release date, and delivered the goods!

Maybe I missed it, but I've not seen anyone bring this up. That right there is a huge + in my book, being a somewhat rare feat in VST land.

Great Job!

[bobbybland]

There are three browsers.This kind of threw me for a loop until Eric mentioned it to me in another forum.This app is absolutely huge and I can't see going to many other vst instruments now other then omni for the type of music I do,which is basically everything under the sun This plug could have easily cost twice as much and I would have gladly paid it!

[bobbybland]

There are three browsers.This kind of threw me for a loop until Eric mentioned it to me in another forum.This app is absolutely huge and I can't see going to many other vst instruments now other then omni for the type of music I do,which is basically everything under the sun This plug could have easily cost twice as much and I would have gladly paid it!

969 patches
2700 sound sources
bunch of multi's as well..

bliss baby..

[krraqk]

Eric Persing's patches display the same flair now as they did when created patches for the Roland hardware. With the layering in Omnisphere, it is possible to get a real "workstation sound", not only a Roland workstation sound but others as well.

I hope you no mean with it that you need to layer patches in Omnisphere to get an expressive sound comparable to a patch in some of the Roland synths. In those you get that feeling with simple patches not need layered patches to have it.

[Per Lichtman]

Eric Persing's patches display the same flair now as they did when created patches for the Roland hardware. With the layering in Omnisphere, it is possible to get a real "workstation sound", not only a Roland workstation sound but others as well.

I hope you no mean with it that you need to layer patches in Omnisphere to get an expressive sound comparable to a patch in some of the Roland synths. In those you get that feeling with simple patches not layered patches.

No, I didn't mean that, sorry for the misunderstanding. The patches are rich and great when self-contained. I just meant that the character of many larger workstation sounds (whether Roland or otherwise), not the more streamlined ones of the Roland D-50 et. al for instance, could be emulated through stacking.

[dusted william]

Well, Well,

I think I might just have to buy this

dw

[CS80]

Well, Well,

I think I might just have to buy this

dw

Wonder if Sam Ash or Guitar Center will have it...

[dusted william]

Well, Well,

I think I might just have to buy this

dw

Wonder if Sam Ash or Guitar Center will have it...

If I buy it I'll get it from zzounds and make 4 payments on it, no tax, no shipping, no interest.

dw

[Zero dB]

After months of anticipation I just excitedly received a FedEx delivery this morning of the Omnisphere package!

Cracked it open immediately but before I opened the envelope containing the DVDs I looked through the user manual and came across the licence agreement. On the surface it seems worryingly draconian compared with any licence agreement I've seen before for a VSTi or sound module... and I'm very concerned now.

My worry is that a lot of the work I do is creating music for production libraries (used by radio, TV, film etc) and often as well as supplying the fully mixed tracks I create mixouts and breakdowns so that the in-house producers at the stations can do their own edits, etc. I also create production elements and sound design and FX for radio and TV (whizzes and bangs, FX for sync etc), often created by heavily manipulating synths, creating new patches, heavily mangling the resulting audio, etc etc.

The licence agreement for Omnisphere seems to imply that this kind of work is breach of the licence. Does anyone know whether this is the case? If so that's extremely disappointing news and sadly there's going to be a lot of composers creating music for media who simply aren't going to be able to use the synth!

Really I need some clarification on this before I can even install or try the instrument - I'd love to hear your thoughts Eric if possible and from anyone who may know the answer. Otherwise sadly I'll have to return Omnisphere or sell it.

Thanks in advance for any insight.

ZdB

[dusted william]

HIJAK ALERT


ZeroDB

but you can use my loops for that purpose!!!


HIJAK OVER

-ok sorry everyone,

-Derik

[zircon]

Most sample libraries don't allow you to sell tracks you make with it in stems, as this would enable people to get the Omnisphere stem (solo) and effectively use the library despite the fact that they have not purchased it. All Spectra products have this license provision as far as I know. East West has a much more restrictive license saying you can't use their products or loops exposed at all in any point in your composition.

As for sound design/FX, NO sample library developers I know of allow this... at least not any of the popular ones. The rules for 'sampling' with regards to music are clear; even if you chop up a copyrighted song and mangle it, you're still NOT allowed to use that recording in your own music without explicit permission. They have to have this provision, otherwise you could simply load up Omnisphere and export 50 presets to sell to a game developer for thousands of dollars.

[Zero dB]

Zircon - well the confusion here partly arises from the fact that I thought (and think...?) that Omnisphere is an instrument, not a sample library, and it's marketed as such!

The replies so far make me wonder how anyone is supposed to produce the kind of thing I'm talking about while using VSTi's! Btw, when was the last time you bought a hardware synth that came with a licence agreement? This all just seems so restrictive; I'm in no way looking to make sample CDs or breach copyright - just use the synth in what I'd think to be a normal manner for anyone making music for media (ie, not just making songs).

Looking forward to hearing more replies to this.

[pdxindy]

Most sample libraries don't allow you to sell tracks you make with it in stems, as this would enable people to get the Omnisphere stem (solo) and effectively use the library despite the fact that they have not purchased it. All Spectra products have this license provision as far as I know. East West has a much more restrictive license saying you can't use their products or loops exposed at all in any point in your composition.

As for sound design/FX, NO sample library developers I know of allow this... at least not any of the popular ones. The rules for 'sampling' with regards to music are clear; even if you chop up a copyrighted song and mangle it, you're still NOT allowed to use that recording in your own music without explicit permission. They have to have this provision, otherwise you could simply load up Omnisphere and export 50 presets to sell to a game developer for thousands of dollars.

That is one of the reasons I like non sample based synths.