Cubase 8.5 here any day now...and the day has come

[ChamomileShark]

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Simple question for people - who do you determine if a plugin is 32 or 64 bit? I'm trying to work out if Emulator X3 is 64bit - something on the vendor's site suggests it might be......

Emulator does come with both 64 and 32 bit versions. I have it.
Alas I also had several issues with it and Nuendo, don't quite remember them now alas.
rsp

thanks - I may have found the answer myself - I suspect that Plugin Manager shows it - those that are 32bit are shown as VST type (Win 32). Looking at that seems to make sense, I haven't installed PPG Wave 3V 64 bit..I seem to have messed up the Imposcar2 install but the others seem to be old things.

Anyone know if Wavestation is only 32bit?

[zvenx]

Just out of interest, are there spilt user folders too (in the Windows user folders) when you have both 32-bit and 64-bit installed? Same when you have for example version 8 and 8.5 installed?

I am not sure what you mean tbh but here is my steinberg folder in my user folder (it is a backup from the PC, taken as a screenshot on the mac )



They both share this folder, they both read the same user presets.
rsp

[zvenx]

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Simple question for people - who do you determine if a plugin is 32 or 64 bit? I'm trying to work out if Emulator X3 is 64bit - something on the vendor's site suggests it might be......

Emulator does come with both 64 and 32 bit versions. I have it.
Alas I also had several issues with it and Nuendo, don't quite remember them now alas.
rsp

thanks - I may have found the answer myself - I suspect that Plugin Manager shows it - those that are 32bit are shown as VST type (Win 32). Looking at that seems to make sense, I haven't installed PPG Wave 3V 64 bit..I seem to have messed up the Imposcar2 install but the others seem to be old things.

Anyone know if Wavestation is only 32bit?

nope Wavestation is both 32 and 64
rsp

[chk071]

Alright, that's what i wanted to know, thanks. Just wondered if they share folders, or if the 32-bit version, for example, writes in one folder, and the 64-bit version in another.

[zvenx]

Alright, that's what i wanted to know, thanks. Just wondered if they share folders, or if the 32-bit version, for example, writes in one folder, and the 64-bit version in another.

Welcome.
But no, they write in the same folder for both presets and projects (well of course you can say where to save projects ). Have never had a problem...

rsp

[kelldammit]

What I'd love to see in a future update (actually, since it was implemented with C7):

Bar minimum:
- custom color codes for the EBU R-128 meter
- custom reference level setting (which changes the scale) and/or better meter scale settings - actually, why not scratch the "EBU R-128" meter (which are fixed settings) and offer a fully configurable ITU-R BS.1770-3 (as of this moment) spec meter (no limitations in terms of setup, settings see above)?

Yeah, it's probably the "as of this moment" that's biting you there...i was sort of surprised that cubase already had R-128, tbh. I'd imagine they'll wait for standardization and real-world adoption, versus chasing all the whitepapers along the way

Bonus (not necessarily needed - i can work either way):
- maybe weighting filters for the RMS meter
- Digital Peak and RMS view not inline on the master meter, but side by side
- Channel meters in the "look" of Dorrough meters. Or like the master meter: inline Digital Peak/RMS (see Master Meter) - but this needs to be configurable in terms of ballistics (RMS realtime/VU 300ms unweighted, 600ms unweighted)

To me, this would be a logical update.

Makes sense, as does the meter customization per standard. I also very much like rms/peak meters side by side. Gotta admit, though, that a lot of those sorts of customizations and definable meter ballistics would probably be a pretty arcane feature for most...possibly even a Nuendo thing? Maybe hit up Dave @ DMG to further tweak Dualism? Given how deep he goes with COMPassion and EQuilibrium, i'd see that happening before steinberg took the bait

Along with "Horizontal plugin bypass" in the mix console (I have a strict plugin order per channel strip), and more than 6+2 inserts (6 pre, 2 post - I think more along the lines of 8+2 or 8+4). Maybe also "select all WAV files, right click, consolidate" (as it is possible in PT). I mean, I can dream. Especially if the Mix Console was heavily... er... inspired by the PT Mix Console.

wouldn't be averse to any of those either.

[Compyfox]

Yeah, it's probably the "as of this moment" that's biting you there...i was sort of surprised that cubase already had R-128, tbh. I'd imagine they'll wait for standardization and real-world adoption, versus chasing all the whitepapers along the way

Fun fact - the ITU-R BS.1770-x specs/recommendations are pretty much considered "standard" at this point. Same with EBU R-128. The main difference is, that EBU R-128 are "fixed settings", while the ITU-R BS.1770-x specs are the actual "backbone". The new AES white paper (see above) and my K-System v2 concept (see my KVR marks) built upon these specs.

Also - they do exist since 2012 and have been even longer in the making - so yeah.
Different topic, different thread.

Makes sense, as does the meter customization per standard. I also very much like rms/peak meters side by side. Gotta admit, though, that a lot of those sorts of customizations and definable meter ballistics would probably be a pretty arcane feature for most...possibly even a Nuendo thing?

Not everything has to be "Nuendo exclusive" IMO. Cubase is just as capable for Audio Editing and Song Production. And here, it makes the most sense.

Maybe hit up Dave @ DMG to further tweak Dualism? Given how deep he goes with COMPassion and EQuilibrium, i'd see that happening before steinberg took the bait

I've been in touch with him several times about this. We didn't pursue this any further.
I could ask other devs (who I collaborate with) as well. We just have to wait and see what the future brings.

Along with "Horizontal plugin bypass" in the mix console (I have a strict plugin order per channel strip), and more than 6+2 inserts (6 pre, 2 post - I think more along the lines of 8+2 or 8+4). Maybe also "select all WAV files, right click, consolidate" (as it is possible in PT). I mean, I can dream. Especially if the Mix Console was heavily... er... inspired by the PT Mix Console.

wouldn't be averse to any of those either.

The "unlock the insert limitation" is one of the most requested features.

"Horizontal Plugin Bypass" and "right click Channel/Event List - Consolidate" is something I'd love to see ported since the implementation of the new Mix Console. Especially since it's looking so similar to the PT one. And while were at it, maybe a "mark channels to freeze, hit 'global freeze' button/engine" as well.

Huge time savers IMO.

[kelldammit]

it has to be done right though and for me only logic has done it right so far. If S1 is utilizing all it's unified gui on screen, it's so busy it's a minefield to navigate. IMO.

i thought they did a pretty good job in s1v2, actually. i also had a faderport, and that really helped, too. with logic, i loved how you could get rid of the graphical fluff to recover useful real-estate...i ran L8 and DP quite happily on a 13" black macbook for few years!

after initially agreeing, after discovering screensets i can't say i still do. The fact that i have awesome inline midi and a docked media browser is enough for me personally.
I wonder how many are still really wanting an S1/LP type windowing for cubase these days?

probably a lot more windows laptop guys than anyone else, i'd think. even with windowsets (which are indeed awesome), on the pc side we get burnt for a lot more vertical space per window than mac folk do. on a small (15") display, it can really add up quickly, and make things either a toggle or scroll-fest. to guys running large or multiple displays that's clearly not going to be a problem
for me personally, if i didn't have to constantly bounce back to the arrangement from the midi editor or mixer, i 'd care a lot less, though transport would still be nice.

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[keyman_sam]

a docked transport would be my number one feature request i will admit, over any other docked item. Yes that would be good. And they can add that without any drastic rewrite.

Already exists, no? Even in 7.5

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[Compyfox]

If we can dock/undock (and turn it into a floating window) it at will - yes. If it's STATIC, then please no.

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[Googly Smythe]

a docked transport would be my number one feature request i will admit, over any other docked item. Yes that would be good. And they can add that without any drastic rewrite.

Would be last on my list! And there's the conundrum for Steinberg... Who do they please? And not just this feature, eh?

[keyman_sam]

a docked transport would be my number one feature request i will admit, over any other docked item. Yes that would be good. And they can add that without any drastic rewrite.

Would be last on my list! And there's the conundrum for Steinberg... Who do they please? And not just this feature, eh?

Yup - have to agree. It's a keystroke away and besides what's in the full transport you need so much?