Vital - Released
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- KVRAF
- 1892 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK
No words
I wonder what happens if I press this button...
- KVRist
- 464 posts since 4 Nov, 2019
My dude, get a grip. He reposted it yesterday, like he said. You just missed it. I'll quote it here:Masterofdisaster wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 12:07 pm Are your reading skills bad? He claimed the link was one page back. Wrong. It wasn't. He has yet to prove what he claims, that there was such a test in the first place and that it couldn't be reproduced or whatever he said. That's one. Second he tricked me. So what would I call him if not a liar and a scammer?
I've asked multiple times now for the test he keeps referring to. He's yet to link to it. In fact he's lied saying it was one page back when it wasn't.
As for your disappointment at the underhanded trick played on you - oh, so naughty - I think it was a bad idea because it was bound to result in this emotional response. However, given that you've been claiming that Vital has a unique sound among synths, with sonic defects so obvious that you find it _shocking_ others cannot hear or don't care about them, the fact that you couldn't detect the trickery does clearly demonstrate that your claims are, at least, overstated.LFO8 wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:59 pm I did a video for the same reason a while back and nobody could see to pick which one was Vital (and I even put it against Serum which, according to some has a vastly superior sound quality whatever that means)
LFO8 wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:10 pm Seems like my video sparked some discussion..![]()
Allright then.. for the connoisseurs: Which one is Vital?
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- KVRAF
- 26937 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Exactly... it may have started in a moment where Vital legitimately sounded bad (maybe level was too hot and it clipped), then a conclusion was drawn and stuck to regardless of incoming empirical evidence.LFO8 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:08 am If, as you say; "the mind works in mysterious ways" because we can be led to believe we hear a difference.
Then might it not be too far of a stretch that you sir are, in fact believing you hear a difference in your own listening because you can see Vital loaded up, see the GUI and know it's Vital??
Instead of pointing fingers at others for 'playing tricks' maybe look inwards and blame your own mind as the one doing the trickery? (as I think these kind of tests clearly show?)
Anyway, I have done a number of Vital comparisons with other synths using ears and spectrum analyzer. I can say that there is no technical deficiency in Vital in the tests I've done. If there is a circumstance where Vital falls apart in the technical sense, I have not encountered it.
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- KVRAF
- 5573 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
Masterofdisaster is desperately trying to prove the reason behind the obvious choice in picking such a name 
It sounds like a Vital thing to do!
It sounds like a Vital thing to do!
ABEFLGMOPPRRST 
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- KVRist
- 334 posts since 18 Apr, 2023 from United Kingdom
It's da best cuz it's free
. Joke aside, It's very personal and I really enjoy playing and designing with it.
I was about to invest till I found Vital, can not be pleased more.
I was about to invest till I found Vital, can not be pleased more.
Best,
Solit
Solit
- KVRAF
- 14103 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
Vital has so many modulation choices but I can't find a ModwheeI. I see a Pitchwheel. Maybe that's it. Also, I'd like the LFOs to be able to be set in Hz. There's everything but Hz.
- KVRist
- 287 posts since 29 Mar, 2021
I think Sync mode is the one that sets the LFO to free running.elassi wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:32 pm The LFO's should have a "free (running)" mode, too.
Unless I've overlooked something, which happens from time to time.![]()
Regards,
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Marco
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- KVRAF
- 5573 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
1 hz = 1 sec.osiris wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:20 pm Vital has so many modulation choices but I can't find a ModwheeI. I see a Pitchwheel. Maybe that's it. Also, I'd like the LFOs to be able to be set in Hz. There's everything but Hz.
ABEFLGMOPPRRST 
- KVRist
- 464 posts since 4 Nov, 2019
It's "MOD WHL", right under "PITCH WHL" in the lower left.osiris wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:20 pm Vital has so many modulation choices but I can't find a ModwheeI. I see a Pitchwheel. Maybe that's it. Also, I'd like the LFOs to be able to be set in Hz. There's everything but Hz.
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- KVRian
- 923 posts since 13 Jul, 2006
Go do "Advanced" Tab and there in the Display section, you can set the Frequency Units from "semitones" to "hz":osiris wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:20 pm Also, I'd like the LFOs to be able to be set in Hz. There's everything but Hz.
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Masterofdisaster Masterofdisaster https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=602159
- KVRist
- 112 posts since 14 Feb, 2023
what do you mean get over myself? i claim i can hear the difference between vital and another synth. you played it dirty, having both be vital as to trick me.LFO8 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 12:14 pmO dear.. get over yourself mate. Maybe take some vacation.Masterofdisaster wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 11:47 amyou expect me to trust that now suddently, your test is honest?LFO8 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 10:23 amOh please..Masterofdisaster wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:55 am Something tells me you are far from an honest person ...
Are some people not familiar with the term cognitive bias?
I have already linked to that post containing the video one page back. But that test is now done as I already revealed which one was which a few pages after I posted the video.Masterofdisaster wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:55 amn any case, please show me because i dont want to sift thru some 200 pages to find it?
Anyway..
Here's another one for you then master of disaster:
Which ones are Vital?
A.2 : https://ln5.sync.com/dl/308fd82e0#qgh55 ... y-hr3cpvmn
B.2 : https://ln5.sync.com/dl/0d750c8d0#hp96q ... k-dirzkuxq
C.2 : https://ln5.sync.com/dl/9aa228210#ncqie ... j-58r6mrbz
D.2 : https://ln5.sync.com/dl/efb33e0a0#wzrt2 ... s-z4nsea9s
and link that test again please, that you claim noone guessed right. and "couldnt be reproduced" i didnt see a link to it yet.
i checked "one page back" like you said, there was nothing there. youre a liar and a scam artist.
i think i know why your refuse to link to it. cause there probably was someone who could "guess" it right, even with your shady tactics.
Best of luck to you. I mean that.
btw this is what another guy said
i quote "it was proven to be bullshit". The link you posted, didnt show it was bullshit at all, two guys had it right.. And didnt you (LFO8) said it was inclonclusive or someone else said that? I dont know. Every comment starts to blend together since you all have literally _ONE_ opinion, and as soon as someone else challenges that, you all gang up like youre in a schoolyard.Psuper wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:07 pm You do realize they had a talk/comparison of this awhile back and it was proven to be bullshit. Seems the only people who still try to make it an issue are the ones who have buyers remorse from other very expensive synths that do far less in far more complicated ways.
You even play dirty tricks. Kinda funny.
In any case, I dont think that test was either inconclusive, or "couldnt be reproduced" or was "proven bullshit" or whatever it is you said. There was a very clear difference in sound.
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Masterofdisaster Masterofdisaster https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=602159
- KVRist
- 112 posts since 14 Feb, 2023
I didnt think that was it, since well, read my post aboveFrogsInPants wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 12:29 pm
My dude, get a grip. He reposted it yesterday, like he said. You just missed it. I'll quote it here:
so funny! tell me, is this group mentality thing you have here at kvr - is it fulfilling? does it feel nice to be a part of the "cool kids" ?liquidsound wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 5:28 pm Masterofdisaster is desperately trying to prove the reason behind the obvious choice in picking such a name
It sounds like a Vital thing to do!
- KVRAF
- 14103 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
Thanks for the info. I suspected Time acted like Hz. All I've got is the manual someone did on their own. It's a great manual but not complete.
- KVRAF
- 1890 posts since 14 Jul, 2018
this only seems to be effective for the filter frequency display but not forFannon wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:11 am Go do "Advanced" Tab and there in the Display section, you can set the Frequency Units from "semitones" to "hz":
the LFO which still will display in "seconds" (and not in Hz)
