ToneBoosters E.Q.4

[Tappistry]

Still no config option for changing mousewheel behavior of adjusting Q value of filters? For some reason, this EQ is still reversed in that behavior from almost every other EQ plugin I've tried, from stock ReaEQ to others.

Hmm not seeing that here?

In Logic Pro X, moving the mouse wheel up increases Q.
In Pro Tools, moving the mouse wheel up increases Q.
In TB EQ4, moving the mouse wheel up increases Q.

I'd say that's pretty consistent?

Just so we're clear on circuitry definitions: when you increase the Q value of a filter, the bandwidth decreases. Conversely, when you increase bandwidth, Q value decreases.
https://www.electronics-notes.com/artic ... ormula.php

So let's talk in terms of filter bandwidth because it's easier to visualize.

ReaEQ-- Moving mousewheel up increases bandwidth
Apqualizr-- Mousewheel up, increase bandwidth
Blue Cat EQ (built into many of their plugins)-- Same behavior as above

Toneboosters EQ-- Moving mousewheel up decreases bandwidth

I realize that on OSX machines, you can globally invert mousewheel behavior, but I don't think you can do this in Windows. Switching to EQ4 from another EQ plugin is confusing for this reason. It's just a weird choice in terms of workflow.

[ATN69]

23 pages. Sorry if I didn't read thru every post, but is there any way to set the filter slope for HP and LP? I would like to be able to change between 6dB/oct -> 24dB/oct.

I just purchased EQ v4 so I have a few things to learn. Most has been straight forward so far.

EDIT: I managed to google up a user manual with all TB plugs. It was described there how to do it

[BerryLaCroix]

Still no config option for changing mousewheel behavior of adjusting Q value of filters? For some reason, this EQ is still reversed in that behavior from almost every other EQ plugin I've tried, from stock ReaEQ to others.

Hmm not seeing that here?

In Logic Pro X, moving the mouse wheel up increases Q.
In Pro Tools, moving the mouse wheel up increases Q.
In TB EQ4, moving the mouse wheel up increases Q.

I'd say that's pretty consistent?

Just so we're clear on circuitry definitions: when you increase the Q value of a filter, the bandwidth decreases. Conversely, when you increase bandwidth, Q value decreases.
https://www.electronics-notes.com/artic ... ormula.php

So let's talk in terms of filter bandwidth because it's easier to visualize.

ReaEQ-- Moving mousewheel up increases bandwidth
Apqualizr-- Mousewheel up, increase bandwidth
Blue Cat EQ (built into many of their plugins)-- Same behavior as above

Toneboosters EQ-- Moving mousewheel up decreases bandwidth

I realize that on OSX machines, you can globally invert mousewheel behavior, but I don't think you can do this in Windows. Switching to EQ4 from another EQ plugin is confusing for this reason. It's just a weird choice in terms of workflow.

Still makes total sense to me for consistency... If the parameter is expressed as bandwidth, moving the mouse wheel up should IMHO indeed increase the bandwidth, and thus decrease Q.

If the parameter is expressed as Q (Logic, Cubase, Pro Tools, Toneboosters, and many others), moving the mouse wheel up should increase the parameter value (Q), and thus decrease bandwidth.

It's all very consistent to me. And yes you can invert the behavior on macOS.

OT: this is becoming one of the very best and most affordable EQs out there

[Butwug]

So let's talk in terms of filter bandwidth because it's easier to visualize.

ReaEQ-- Moving mousewheel up increases bandwidth
Apqualizr-- Mousewheel up, increase bandwidth
Blue Cat EQ (built into many of their plugins)-- Same behavior as above

Toneboosters EQ-- Moving mousewheel up decreases bandwidth

I realize that on OSX machines, you can globally invert mousewheel behavior, but I don't think you can do this in Windows. Switching to EQ4 from another EQ plugin is confusing for this reason. It's just a weird choice in terms of workflow.

Bitwig’s native EQ uses Q. This EQ also uses Q. It would be a bit weird IMO to express it as bandwidth versus Q. Blame the other EQ’s for not following the proper way

[mabian]

Still no config option for changing mousewheel behavior of adjusting Q value of filters? For some reason, this EQ is still reversed in that behavior from almost every other EQ plugin I've tried, from stock ReaEQ to others.

Hmm not seeing that here?

In Logic Pro X, moving the mouse wheel up increases Q.
In Pro Tools, moving the mouse wheel up increases Q.
In TB EQ4, moving the mouse wheel up increases Q.

I'd say that's pretty consistent?

Just so we're clear on circuitry definitions: when you increase the Q value of a filter, the bandwidth decreases. Conversely, when you increase bandwidth, Q value decreases.
https://www.electronics-notes.com/artic ... ormula.php

So let's talk in terms of filter bandwidth because it's easier to visualize.

ReaEQ-- Moving mousewheel up increases bandwidth
Apqualizr-- Mousewheel up, increase bandwidth
Blue Cat EQ (built into many of their plugins)-- Same behavior as above

Toneboosters EQ-- Moving mousewheel up decreases bandwidth

I realize that on OSX machines, you can globally invert mousewheel behavior, but I don't think you can do this in Windows. Switching to EQ4 from another EQ plugin is confusing for this reason. It's just a weird choice in terms of workflow.

Still makes total sense to me for consistency... If the parameter is expressed as bandwidth, moving the mouse wheel up should IMHO indeed increase the bandwidth, and thus decrease Q.

If the parameter is expressed as Q (Logic, Cubase, Pro Tools, Toneboosters, and many others), moving the mouse wheel up should increase the parameter value (Q), and thus decrease bandwidth.

It's all very consistent to me. And yes you can invert the behavior on macOS.

OT: this is becoming one of the very best and most affordable EQs out there

At least it could be made as an option... though I agree that the most logical approach is the opposite compared to what happens now in TB EQ...

- Mario

[Vortifex]

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[badass_billy]

Is High Quality mode enabled by default?

And if not, how does one go about adjusting the quality settings?

[Aloysius]

Get off your bad ass and read the manual?

[NeonNightflyer]

There is an "HQ" check box at the bottom of the GUI, next to the "No Latency" option.

[trackbout]

Version 4.1.8 is out now!

Since version 4.1.3, the following features have been implemented or updated:

Analog circuitry modelling. Every filter section can now run in pure digital mode or using analog circuitry modelling providing warmth and character.

I see the Circuit Drive value can be set from negative 40db to positive 30db. Positive values for a drive setting are fairly self explanatory, but what do negative values for a drive setting do?

[badass_billy]

So to get the analog modelling, you just select the "analog bell" option?

Or is there something else to it?

And where is the circuit drive value?

These aren't anywhere in the manual that I can see. Otherwise, I would be happy to consult the manual.

https://www.toneboosters.com/manuals/TB ... Manual.pdf

[djeroen]

Every filter and filter type can run in pristine, analytical mode or using analog circuitry model. Not just the analog bell curve.

You can enable and disable the analog circuit model for every filter section independently. You'll find the enable/disable setting by opening the extended controls window (where you'll also find the settings for dynamic equalization).

On the drive value: this is the gain applied prior to running the circuit simulation in decibels. A higher value will therefore result in more pronounced non-linearities in the filter circuitry model.

High-quality mode is a global parameter (for all sections) and can be enabled using the 'HQ' switch at the bottom row. This will enable anti-aliasing and oversampling to remove any aliasing.

[trackbout]

On the drive value: this is the gain applied prior to running the circuit simulation in decibels. A higher value will therefore result in more pronounced non-linearities in the filter circuitry model.

So, this makes sense to me when increasing the value from 0db to 30db, but it doesn't really explain what happens when you decrease the value from 0db to negative 40db, unless I suppose there is drive being applied at 0db, which seems weird to me. Sorry if I'm being dumb. I love your plugins! I use Barricade 4 on literally every track.

[djeroen]

On the drive value: this is the gain applied prior to running the circuit simulation in decibels. A higher value will therefore result in more pronounced non-linearities in the filter circuitry model.

So, this makes sense to me when increasing the value from 0db to 30db, but it doesn't really explain what happens when you decrease the value from 0db to negative 40db, unless I suppose there is drive being applied at 0db, which seems weird to me. Sorry if I'm being dumb. I love your plugins! I use Barricade 4 on literally every track.

It's just a gain (like a slider in your mixer). Higher value will cause stronger non linearities. 0 dB means that no gain is being applied. Positive values mean the signal is amplified prior to running the model. Negative values mean that the signal is attenuated prior to running the model.

Basically the higher the value, the stronger the non-linearities you can expect to be present in the signals.

[trackbout]

Negative values mean that the signal is attenuated prior to running the model.

Aha! This is the sentence I needed. Thanks for explaining.