KVR Audio

yellowmix · Post by **yellowmix** » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:38 pm

If anyone is interested in the research, there are related patents:

https://patents.google.com/patent/EP1280138A1/en (European)
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20050065781 (US)
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2019119028A1/en

Scotty · Post by **Scotty** » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:46 pm

MasterTuner wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:50 pm
Scotty wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:23 pm SoundTheory saw my post about the VST3 and reached out to me via email. They found the solution to the VST 3 loading issues that was crashing all version of Cubase from 7 to 10.x on Windows.
I am so very impressed that they reached out to me after seeing my comments here and had a solution for me which went further than the original instructions. Clearly a service oriented company. Well Done!
I've had a couple of crashes in Reaper (my Reaper is normally very, very stable) I was using the VST3. I cannot categorically link the crash to Gullfoss though. But it did crash twice when I had it on the tracks (I just bought it a few days ago), and its not crashed for weeks and weeks.

I haven't tested stability of the VST3 version of GullFoss yet but it is loading just fine in Cubase all versions but I will will reach out to SoundTheory if I have any issues. I am gradually moving toward a VST3 world but sadly Universal Audio and others are lagging behind.

vitocorleone123 · Post by **vitocorleone123** » Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:53 pm

Beta period for windows is over! Their email to customers says two weeks for new builds that allow use across OS. Windows version price is now $199 - same as Mac.

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:26 pm

vitocorleone123 wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:53 pm Beta period for windows is over! Their email to customers says two weeks for new builds that allow use across OS. Windows version price is now $199 - same as Mac.

Excellent! Looking forward to buying it 2nd hand at some point in the future. I ran out of Gullfoss GAS.

mutetourettes · Post by **mutetourettes** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:14 pm

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yellowmix wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:38 pm If anyone is interested in the research, there are related patents:

https://patents.google.com/patent/EP1280138A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/EP1280138A1/en) (European)
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20050065781 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20050065781) (US)
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2019119028A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2019119028A1/en)

and of course this rather interesting work by Andreas, thanking David:

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1205.0293.pdf (https://arxiv.org/pdf/1205.0293.pdf)

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:21 pm

Interesting. So Gullfoss is useful primarily for academic music?

vitocorleone123 · Post by **vitocorleone123** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:26 pm

martinjuenke wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:21 pm Interesting. So Gullfoss is useful primarily for academic music?

DrReacto · Post by **DrReacto** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:03 pm

Posting the patents used by Soundtheory on a public forum probably isn't in their company's best interest considering IP and competition. While I find the research interesting I would rather this content not be posted here as I appreciate the work this small company is doing and would like to see more innovative products developed by them.
Please consider editing your posts.

Ou_Tis · Post by **Ou_Tis** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:08 pm

DrReacto wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:03 pm Posting the patents used by Soundtheory on a public forum probably isn't in their company's best interest considering IP and competition. While I find the research interesting I would rather this content not be posted here as I appreciate the work this small company is doing and would like to see more innovative products developed by them.
Please consider editing your posts.

"The bargain of a patent is that you provide information about your invention to the public—by describing the invention in a patent to the level that one skilled in the art could practice the invention—and in exchange the government grants you a time-limited monopoly on your invention. This way invention is encouraged through the monopoly to the inventor and technological arts and sciences are advanced by the disclosure of the invention to the public.

Therefore the content of a patent is publicly available information."

http://www.ericksonlawgroup.com/law/pat ... lications/

Smapti · Post by **Smapti** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:40 pm

DrReacto wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:03 pm Posting the patents used by Soundtheory on a public forum probably isn't in their company's best interest considering IP and competition. While I find the research interesting I would rather this content not be posted here as I appreciate the work this small company is doing and would like to see more innovative products developed by them.
Please consider editing your posts.

Is the argument here that patents - which are paid for by the public through tax dollars and have always been publicly available - should not be posted on a website? Or that the ArXiV, which is a very useful preprint archive in many scientific disciplines, should just be shut down? Interesting.

andrewklimek · Post by **andrewklimek** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:46 pm

The last several pages were a really bizarre and depressing read.

sleepcircle · Post by **sleepcircle** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:50 pm

Yeah, it's ok to post the Patent because it is—in fact—a Patent. It's not just 'Patent Pending;' it means that the government is distributing the Patent to the public with the warning "See this? You better not freakin' do this. YOU BETTER NOT TRY AND TOUCH THIS."

If anything, posting a successfully granted Patent is like having the sign of the biggest gang in the city on your garage door. In a way it makes you a target for other gangs, but on the other hand, if any gang moves on your garage, they will attract the fatal interest of those whose protection the garage is under.

Ou_Tis · Post by **Ou_Tis** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:52 pm

He did write "patents used by Soundtheory" rather than "Soundtheory's patents", so perhaps he doesn't understand that this is based primarily on their founder's original research.

If other companies use it, they'll almost certainly have to pay Soundtheory, or at least Andreas Tell.

atell · Post by **atell** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:27 pm

Smapti wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:40 pm Is the argument here that patents - which are paid for by the public through tax dollars and have always been publicly available - should not be posted on a website?

I'm fine with everyone reading our patents, but just to avoid a false impression here: None of our research, patent fees or in fact anything have been paid by for by tax payers. Soundtheory has done all research privately. That even includes the research that should have been paid for by the tax payer, because it has resulted in publications.

Andreas

andrewklimek · Post by **andrewklimek** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:55 pm

v1o wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:32 am Actually no in actual usage it does not look or sound like it's matching a pink noise reference. And I have a good idea on how to use it based on my own testing and experience.

Exactly. This is my experience as well after 1.5 years using it. You understand how to use it by trying it, not running noise through it.

As a simple example, I can add a massive low shelf boost prior to Gullfoss and it does not attenuate my boost.

Soundtheory GULLFOSS computional auditory perception EQ