Massive X 1.6.1 update (September 2025)!

[aMUSEd]

I downloaded some free presets over here and put them into user content/presets directory. Now each time I load Massive X it scans all these presets which takes about 2 minutes.

Is there any way to scan them one time so that MX would remember them and never scan again? It kinda sucks to wait 2 minutes each time i want to use MX.

Did anyone have this issue, or is it only me? I tried to rescan the whole preset folder but nothing changed, it still scans each preset in the user content library each time i load it into a DAW.

Scanning on startup does get longer if you have more presets - they need to implement a smarter scan that can be turned off when not required

[recursive one]

I downloaded some free presets over here and put them into user content/presets directory. Now each time I load Massive X it scans all these presets which takes about 2 minutes.

Is there any way to scan them one time so that MX would remember them and never scan again? It kinda sucks to wait 2 minutes each time i want to use MX.

Did anyone have this issue, or is it only me? I tried to rescan the whole preset folder but nothing changed, it still scans each preset in the user content library each time i load it into a DAW.

Scanning on startup does get longer if you have more presets - they need to implement a smarter scan that can be turned off when not required

Indeed, that scanning would make sense only when i add new presets.

So i gather it's not possible to turn it off. Okay, thanks (it sucks tho).

[chk071]

Even with no other presets at all (than the factory ones), the scanning takes too long.

[aMUSEd]

Yes and it also scans user noise tables now too which adds more to the scan. NI are aware of this issue though, hopefully it will be addressed at some point.

[frackermak]

Mine doesn't scan every time I load it?
I have to click the 'rescan content'

[chk071]

It doesn't seem to be a full scan. Rather a scan to check if presets have been added, or something.

[LoveEnigma18]

It doesn't seem to be a full scan. Rather a scan to check if presets have been added, or something.

Exactly. Only thing is it does scan "user presets" every time.

There is no option to stop this "user preset scan" behaviour, like we have in Komplete Kontrol and Maschine.

[Biome_Digital]

Massive X 1.3.1 - 2020-08-20

CHANGED User presets are now saved in a dedicated 'Presets' subfolder in the user content directory

Oh hoo raah! Only waited a year for that!! lol

It's not what you might think it is - just means presets are separated from things like user noise tables - doesn't add any organisation still

!!! You're joking!

I wish I was - NI are really shooting themselves in the foot over this - they create such a wonderful sound design wet dream then make it a pain in the ass to share and sell user created banks due to the inability to save anything with a bank name or even tags or provide any organisation to the user tab. Possibly they think people should only buy their own content but that would be dumb - the key to the sustainable success of any plugin is creating an active community of users and sound designers generating and sharing music and presets - not just passive consumers of content.

That being said it is worth persevering with - the more people using it and putting pressure on NI to open up the User section the better - my fear would be people losing interest and NI deciding it isn’t worth developing further.

Agree, I really like Massive X. I think my sound bank (Quarantine) shows some really unique and complex sounds, but the browser makes it annoying when you have lots of user presets. The small and sporadic updates seems to be taking an age! The sound is great though, they just need to stop releasing expansions and get the thing finished.

[Sparky77]

Mine doesn't scan every time I load it?
I have to click the 'rescan content'

Can you set it in preference?

[aMUSEd]

Mine doesn't scan every time I load it?
I have to click the 'rescan content'

Can you set it in preference?

No - that's the problem

[aMUSEd]

Massive X 1.3.1 - 2020-08-20

CHANGED User presets are now saved in a dedicated 'Presets' subfolder in the user content directory

Oh hoo raah! Only waited a year for that!! lol

It's not what you might think it is - just means presets are separated from things like user noise tables - doesn't add any organisation still

!!! You're joking!

I wish I was - NI are really shooting themselves in the foot over this - they create such a wonderful sound design wet dream then make it a pain in the ass to share and sell user created banks due to the inability to save anything with a bank name or even tags or provide any organisation to the user tab. Possibly they think people should only buy their own content but that would be dumb - the key to the sustainable success of any plugin is creating an active community of users and sound designers generating and sharing music and presets - not just passive consumers of content.

That being said it is worth persevering with - the more people using it and putting pressure on NI to open up the User section the better - my fear would be people losing interest and NI deciding it isn’t worth developing further.

Agree, I really like Massive X. I think my sound bank (Quarantine) shows some really unique and complex sounds, but the browser makes it annoying when you have lots of user presets. The small and sporadic updates seems to be taking an age! The sound is great though, they just need to stop releasing expansions and get the thing finished.

If it helps it is possible to create a bank for them in Komplete Kontrol at least but that doesn't show in Massive X browser

[_leras]

Agree, I really like Massive X. I think my sound bank (Quarantine) shows some really unique and complex sounds, but the browser makes it annoying when you have lots of user presets. The small and sporadic updates seems to be taking an age! The sound is great though, they just need to stop releasing expansions and get the thing finished.

I'm sure they are working on it as well as on the expansions.

Let's hope anyway.

But it does fall in that slightly annoying area of things lost from the original massive.

[_leras]

Agree, I really like Massive X. I think my sound bank (Quarantine) shows some really unique and complex sounds, but the browser makes it annoying when you have lots of user presets. The small and sporadic updates seems to be taking an age! The sound is great though, they just need to stop releasing expansions and get the thing finished.

I'm sure they are working on it as well as on the expansions.

Let's hope anyway.

But it does fall in that slightly annoying area of things lost from the original massive.

[simon.a.billington]

New to massive x, but It has no MIDI learn or automation? The only thing you can do apparently is automate some macros via daw? Thats kinda ridiculous!

Kinda. It makes sense in some way though. We could update how our sound is responding to the automation by making tweaks to the parameters but because the Macro is automated we wouldn’t have to adjust several lanes of automation data. It’s actually quite a smart way to do it. Lion can only be automated by its macros too. I’m sure there are others.

No, it is not a smart way to do it. Being able to automate macros is cool, but when that is all you can do, that is not smart at all... way too limited and clumsy

If it saves you time re-automating because of the parameters you wish to change. It is quite smart. Anything that makes life easier for you and saves time is smarter way to work with. Because it limits it to just the macros which are very, very easy to set up it saves you from also potentially wading through the endless lists of automatable parameters in the DAW, especially if your automating several on the timeline, that’s quick, it’s precise, it’s the opposite of clumsy.

I can understand you have a preferred way of working, but you can’t really say it’s not smart or that it’s clumsy.

Hi -
With all due respect from an old guy...

You need to be listening to and acknowledging your customer's comments. While your replies are somewhat informative regarding automation they don't address the concerns and specific points of needing midi learn by more than a few. Suggesting options is fine. But attempting to softly insult people into working differently is to your benefit, not the customers

If you can't implement midi learn for some reason (cost, technical limits etc) so be it (and maybe tell us). But your replies quickly sound argumentative and dismissive. We're paying customers. Please treat us as such.

Thanks.

Hey bro, we’re you referring to me or NI?? Just FYI, I don’t work for them. I just try to offer friendly advise whenever I can and challenge certain comments if I think are a bit presumptuous or wrong even. I certainly hop I don’t insult anyone as I work hard to try to be a bigger person that.

I also realise that there was a matter of context with what I was saying and how I was addressing the original comment. I realise that I often, not always, but often like to “draw” my animation. In that sense I had forgotten entirely about those who use controllers to do it and just want to record their movements. In that sense I can see how it might be a bit awkward or clumsy to automate in that instance. So I might be “wrong” given that context.

However, if you draw your automation in like I do, it can make it much more simple to make updates your automation, so I still stand by that point. It’s all relative, though. One person’s awkward maybe another person’s simplicity. So it’s hard to say anything absolute about something that is so completely subjective.

[simon.a.billington]

New to massive x, but It has no MIDI learn or automation? The only thing you can do apparently is automate some macros via daw? Thats kinda ridiculous!

Kinda. It makes sense in some way though. We could update how our sound is responding to the automation by making tweaks to the parameters but because the Macro is automated we wouldn’t have to adjust several lanes of automation data. It’s actually quite a smart way to do it. Lion can only be automated by its macros too. I’m sure there are others.

No, it is not a smart way to do it. Being able to automate macros is cool, but when that is all you can do, that is not smart at all... way too limited and clumsy

If it saves you time re-automating because of the parameters you wish to change. It is quite smart. Anything that makes life easier for you and saves time is smarter way to work with. Because it limits it to just the macros which are very, very easy to set up it saves you from also potentially wading through the endless lists of automatable parameters in the DAW, especially if your automating several on the timeline, that’s quick, it’s precise, it’s the opposite of clumsy.

I can understand you have a preferred way of working, but you can’t really say it’s not smart or that it’s clumsy.

I can say it's not smart and it is clumsy. There is no reason whatsoever it needs to be one or the other. One should be able to modulate the macros and also any individual parameter.

If someone wants to setup a midi controller... say Ableton Push... to control a synths parameters. You cannot do it with Massive X.

Same in Bitwig with the Remote Pages. You cannot set up a dedicated page for the Amp envelope.

Okay, I can assign macros 9-16 to control the Amp envelope on a specific preset. But then as soon as you change presets, that is lost. If you want to keep that, you have to do it for every freakin preset... it doesn't get clumsier than that!

Yeah, I’d agree to that. I must admit when I responded originally I had forgotten entirely about people using controllers to program their automation in, as I often like to draw it manually because there is better control.

But see my comment in the post above for further info.