Studio One 6

[The Noodlist]

Maybe get all the Studio One 5 users to blow up Presonus email and support email about the lack of a 25% off for the 6 pro upgrade and they'll get the hint ?

 

Thomann are offering an Studio One Professional upgrade @£109 cheaper than from Presonus
https://www.thomann.de/gb/presonus_stud ... _5_pro.htm

There's usually 30% off late February.

[chk071]

The upgrade price is definitely a joke. 80 € would be about right for me, and might even lead to me buying versions I don't really "need" for their added features, but are rather "nice to haves".

Although, even for 80 €, I'd really have to consider if I really, really need the added functionality, or if I'm not good with less feature bloat.

You know, what's right is right, and everyone has to make a living, but, I'm just not the target audience for "OMG, I'm so bored, I need new shiny features every 1 or 2 years". This is a professional piece of software for me, which primarily has to do what it says on the box, and which has to be stable enough to not crash on me when I created a track and forgot to save. So to speak. That's the main purpose for me, not a gazillion of new features which "sex" me up.

[Bartone]

Money is tight for many people all around world right now. So it is very understandable people are taking second and third thinking when thinking if they can buy upgrades for DAW and then they see only new customers get discounts. You have to really think what you have money for and where to save.

[Crossinger]

Money is tight for many people all around world right now.

Maybe money is tight for Presonus as well? I don‘t think the subscription goes well. And - as you say - upgrades are no longer a matter of course for existing customers. So in the sales departments the main focus is probably „market share“, which means: new customers, who also pay more for a single license than the existing customers.

Idk , but the lackluster release of the v6 combined with strict sales policy is less than tempting. It‘s even not mandatory for Apple Silicon Macs, since they did their homework already with v5.

[chk071]

Money is tight for many people all around world right now.

Maybe money is tight for Presonus as well? I don‘t think the subscription goes well. And - as you say - upgrades are no longer a matter of course for existing customers. So in the sales departments the main focus is probably „market share“, which means: new customers, who also pay more for a single license than the existing customers.

I wouldn't be surprised. It's a common scheme.

[Digivolt]

which means: new customers, who also pay more for a single license than the existing customers.

But why would you want to be a new customer when you can see how current customers are treated and being pushed to subscription ?

[Crossinger]

which means: new customers, who also pay more for a single license than the existing customers.

But why would you want to be a new customer when you can see how current customers are treated and being pushed to subscription ?

Ah, c‘mon. New customers usually don‘t look behind the scenes before purchasing. Exceptions prove the rule. And the sale offers for new licenses and crossgrades were quite good!

[BONES]

But why would you want to be a new customer when you can see how current customers are treated and being pushed to subscription ?

Who is seeing that? What I am seeing is a bunch of people who are perfectly happy using old versions, which tells me that maybe I don't need to worry about future updates, as even old versions seem to make a lot of users happy. It all depends on how you want to look at it.

Anyway, as I pointed out previously, if I'd stayed up to date with Cubase, I'd have spent more than I'd need to with Studio One. It's just that Steinberg would have taken it out of me in three smaller chunks. But I didn't think any of those smaller chunks were worth paying for, either.

[Bartone]

But why would you want to be a new customer when you can see how current customers are treated and being pushed to subscription ?

Who is seeing that? What I am seeing is a bunch of people who are perfectly happy using old versions, which tells me that maybe I don't need to worry about future updates, as even old versions seem to make a lot of users happy. It all depends on how you want to look at it.

Anyway, as I pointed out previously, if I'd stayed up to date with Cubase, I'd have spent more than I'd need to with Studio One. It's just that Steinberg would have taken it out of me in three smaller chunks. But I didn't think any of those smaller chunks were worth paying for, either.

Yes, I remember reading Cubase has this quite money hungry update system. In that light Studio one’s update prices are not that bad. Especially if you are not hurry to update and can wait for the discount prices for old customers. They will come - when I don’t know but I am sure they come.

[jinotsuh]

I just don't like the 1 or 2 paid upgrades a year which Cubase and Studio One do,

Forgive me, but I have been using Studio One Pro since the release of v3, upgrade religiously on release, and I feel like I have been warped into some alternate universe, because I know nothing of this?

On another note, I find it easier just to pay the upgrade price and keep on truckin. In the end you'll expend far less time and mental energy thinking about it and posting about it on forums. On release just quickly find the cheapest, I usually just go straight to Best Service, a few clams either way is nothing, hand over the money, collect my product, done.

To still be here almost 3 months later just warps my mind, each to their own and everything, but I certainly couldn't do it.

[jamcat]

Studio one has been around for 12 years and just released version 6. That comes out to a paid upgrade every 2 years, right on schedule.

[jinotsuh]

Indeed, I don't expect to pay anything more until v7 drops

[BONES]

I think you are using UR44C as your signature suggests, I had too much trouble with Steinberg (and also Focusrite) drivers on Windows. It might be your interface's fault. And you say it randomly picks buffer size, so definitely something is wrong with it.

Sorry, I missed this last month., Thanks for the suggestions but I own half-a-dozen interfaces and the problem is there with at least three of them - Steinberg/Yamaha, Audient and Zoom. I've found the Yamaha/Steinberg drivers to be very good over the years. I've had an AG06 for ages and it's never given me any issues at all.

I have my eye on Cakewalk for a while now, there's just some small things which always hindered me to use it as my main DAW.

I was interested in Cakewalk at one point but, from everything I read, it seemed like a buggy mess so I never bothered.

I just don't like the 1 or 2 paid upgrades a year which Cubase and Studio One do

Woah! I bought Studio One 5 in September 2020. Since then I have installed at least 4 point updates, probably more, but this is the first time they have asked for any money.

I tried 5 but didn't want to pay basically, same with 6.

I'm the same. I updated my Artist license but there's nothing in it that would make me inclined to pay to upgrade Pro. Which is interesting when you think I found enough reason to buy an Artist license on top of the Pro license I already had. But I'm the same way with most software these days. I haven't bothered with the last few Xara upgrades and the version I'm using at the moment is more than a decade old, because it does everything I need and doesn't nag me to upgrade every time I start it. I've got Affinity Designer and Photo but I'm not going to pay more to upgrade to v2 than I paid for v1. With Photoshop, I reckon I'd be just as happy on v7 from the turn of the Century as I am on CC 2023. Same with 3DS Max. I'm still using Max 2009 and it works great.

Still, it seems like they are in the least trying to steer folks towards paying them continuously. I don't recall them limiting holiday sales to the subscription in the past.

Maybe they were just showing their corporate customers a bit of love? I'm sure they realise that individual users don't want subscription, whereas corporate customers mostly prefer it. Sphere is, I think, very much the kind of thing corporates and educational institutions would love. And if they can get more colleges teaching Studio One, it will give them a big leg-up to increase marketshare.

[chk071]

I just don't like the 1 or 2 paid upgrades a year which Cubase and Studio One do,

Forgive me, but I have been using Studio One Pro since the release of v3, upgrade religiously on release, and I feel like I have been warped into some alternate universe, because I know nothing of this?

Since version 4, the frequency of the paid upgrades is pretty much 2 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_On ... se_history

[dellboy]

I recently demoed the latest 6 version for a month and there was nothing in it that enticed me to upgrade at the normal price. I might upgrade if and when they do a sale. I will never do subscription. I still have Cubase 12 Pro to fall back on, and if times get really hard, and push comes to shove, I also have Cubase 11 Pro on a dongle until it eventually breaks