One Synth Challenge #105 - Thorn by Dmitry Sches (J. Ruegg Wins!)

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Yeah, I noticed one of the most hungry features is actually the Filter section at 24. I had to switch from LFP24 to dirtyLP on one of my sounds to let it play halfway decently.
The FX are probably not nearly as hungry, because they're not per voice, you know.

Also a pretty choir, Rich! :tu:

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Taron wrote:Yeah, I noticed one of the most hungry features is actually the Filter section at 24. I had to switch from LFP24 to dirtyLP on one of my sounds to let it play halfway decently.
The FX are probably not nearly as hungry, because they're not per voice, you know.

Also a pretty choir, Rich! :tu:
Thanks :) No samples used or imported anywhere btw.
Found drawing in the oscillators quite interesting results too.

I think the most power hungry patch(es) were where i created a faux strumming effect using a top end filter sweep using the MSEG on sound with lots of high frequency, so yes its the filters.
Also found that every instance stole a bit of CPU whether playing or not.

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This is my entry, pretty rough, no drums out of principle...;-)

https://soundcloud.com/ondes-memorielle ... of-thornes

DAW Ardour
13 Instances of Thorn
1 Linnstrument to play it

have fun...
Last edited by Tj Shredder on Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:32 am, edited 1 time in total.

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RichardSemper wrote:
Taron wrote:Yeah, I noticed one of the most hungry features is actually the Filter section at 24. I had to switch from LFP24 to dirtyLP on one of my sounds to let it play halfway decently.
The FX are probably not nearly as hungry, because they're not per voice, you know.

Also a pretty choir, Rich! :tu:
Thanks :) No samples used or imported anywhere btw.
Found drawing in the oscillators quite interesting results too.

I think the most power hungry patch(es) were where i created a faux strumming effect using a top end filter sweep using the MSEG on sound with lots of high frequency, so yes its the filters.
Also found that every instance stole a bit of CPU whether playing or not.
Yes, especially - even if that sounds a little paradox now- when you use Reverb. That, I believe, is the IDLE killer! If you don't use reverb, IDLE may actually recover quite nicely and CPU usage goes down again. In MuLab we have the SET AUTO BYPASS feature, which you have to set for each individual instance (annoyance), but I set it to 200ms and it helped.

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Hi, my Thorn OSC105 entry: no time.
Like so many of you, by the sound of it, I have been pushed for time this month, and especially tonight trying to finish and mix this before the synth stopped working!
Thorn is great!
https://soundcloud.com/zarf/zarf-no-time

24 instances of Thorn.
Ableton Live, with Ableton EQs, Compressors, Limiters, Reverbs, Utility
Third party fx: EngineersFilter, toTape, Ferric TDS, LoudMax

Good luck everyone :D

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need to enable downloads.

zippy731 wrote:Thorn is just lovely.

Here's my entry:

https://soundcloud.com/zippy731/zippy73 ... se-osc-105

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Made in FL Studio.
10 Thorn instances
NO FX in DAW, just a master channel limiter.

Thorn is so good at textures, easy to use, stable. Cheers to Dmitry for a wonderful synth!

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I've just been through this whole thread downloading submissions, and I must say...

90% of people didn't tag their file, and 80% of people didn't name their file properly.
When you have a download folder with 20 files all called "OSC105.WAV... and you load them into a media player an they're all not tagged... bit of foresight is needed there i think.
also, a few people haven't enabled downloads.
https://sites.google.com/site/kvrosc/rules


ok, i have 27 files here... current to this post
(most i had to run back through the entire thread for, matching songs to artists, due to poor file naming)
If the accompanying info is wrong please let me know and I'll update it, cheers ;)


] Peter H [ - Ephemeral (This is Thorn)-05.flac
https://soundcloud.com/p-e-t-e-r-h/ephemeral-thorn
Cubase 9.5
About 20 Thorns sticking in my head
As usual my mixing is done with Cubase 9.5 EQ, Limiter, Reverb, MultibandCompressor, 1 Magneto II

3lu5iv3 - OSC105.wav
https://soundcloud.com/3lu5iv3/osc105
DAW - Reaper 5
36 instances of Thorn
TDR Nova x 25
Tek'it Audio MScontrol x 1
u-he Protoverb x 1
wave arts Tube Saturator Vintage x 2
ReaComp x 1
Event Horizon Limiter/Clipper x 1
xfer OTT x 1
Voxengo SPAN x 1
Youlean Loudness Meter x 1

574X
https://soundcloud.com/unknownchallenge ... -kvrosc105
No fx, just xfer ott, melda mequalizer, variety of sound nastyvcs on the master of each section of ~7 instances of Thorn, maxing cpu and a tls maximizer to normalize one of them.

aluode - Cruise.mp3
https://soundcloud.com/antti-luode/cruise
FLstudio 12.3
15 x Thorn, few effectors as reverbs and some limiters.

Aluto - OSC105.wav
https://soundcloud.com/altocero/osc105-thorn
21 instances of Thorn.
Bitwig 1 and only eq-5 and dynamic on the master track

Bblunt Productions - Torn (OSC Thorn Contest).wav
https://soundcloud.com/bblunt-productio ... rn-contest
Thorn (x22)
DAW: Reaper 5
ReaComp
ReaXcomp
JS: Bass Manager/Booster
JS: Convolution Amp/Cab Modeler
MEqualizer
MSaturator
MAutopan
MBandpass
FreeG
MLimiter
TAL Dub Delay
KarmaFX Reverb
Variety Of Sound TesslaSE
Terry West CS12m
A1 Stereo Control

bh9090 - pith [OSC105_v30].wav
https://soundcloud.com/hennessey/bh9090-pith-osc105-v30
20 Thorn instances in Reaper 5.6
EFX: TDR Nova EQ, ReaDelay, ReaComp, Freeverb3, Klanghelm IVGI2, Loudmax

cb8rwh - Thorn OSC 3_20171108_1726.mp3
https://soundcloud.com/rich-whitfield/division
Bitwig 2.2.2
24 instances of Thorn
Bitwig's EQ-5 was on pretty much all the channels. A couple of compressors for slight sidechaining, and a high-pass filter (all native Bitwig). There was 1 instance of Bitwig's Reverb and Delay-1 and BItwig's Compressor and Peak Limiter were on the master

ckoe - kvr105.wav
https://soundcloud.com/ckoehlerberlin/c ... ts-to-ride
Reaper
11xThorn
12xReaEQ, 2xReaComp, Softube Saturation Knob

Darksynth FX - Unwind.wav
https://soundcloud.com/darksynth-fx/darksynth-fx-unwind
DAW: Ableton Live 9 Suite
11x Thorn
13x Ableton EQ8
1x Flux Bittersweet
1x Voxengo Stereo Touch
1x Xfer OTT
1x Ableton Compressor
1x Ableton Simple Delay
1x Ableton Glue Compressor
1x Voxengo Tube Amp
1x Ableton Limiter
1x Ableton Reverb (Send)
1x Ableton Simple Delay (Send)

doctorbob - Thornbird VIII.mp3
https://soundcloud.com/doctorbob/thorny-one
DAW: Reaper
27 * Thorn
25 * ReaEQ
6 * LFX-1310
2 * Twin Delay
1 * TAL Dub Delay
2 * TAL Reverb II
5 * TAL Reverb 4
2 * JS Bass Manager/Booster
TDR VOS SlickEQ
Ferric TDS
TDR Feedback Compressor II
Classic Master Limiter
DR:11

eraze the borders - Puppetmaster.mp3
https://soundcloud.com/eraze-the-border ... ppetmaster
DAW: Reaper 5.61
19 x Thorn
ReaEQ, ReaComp, Boot EQ mkII, epicVerb, TAL Reverb III, Voxengo MSED, TDR Kotelnikov, Thrillseeker VBL, Unlimited

Ethan Duys - OSCNov2017.wav
https://soundcloud.com/lostphases/living-circuitry
14 Instances of Thorn, Ableton's native Reverb (2), and Frequency Shifter

generaldiomedes - OSC 105 Thorn Trance Version.wav
46 instances of Thorn within Ableton.
DAW effects used: EQ Eight (mostly for low cut), Compressor (mostly for side-chain), Limiter, Utility, Reverb x 2
Free effects used: MStereoExpander x 2, Auburn Sounds Panagement x 1, Sleepytime Records Transient x 2

Guenon
https://soundcloud.com/guenooni/guenon- ... n-the-moon
Default installation of Thorn with no imported wave or spectral data.
Ableton Live 8, only built-in EQ, dynamic control and delay, plus vladg Limiter no6 on the master. All reverb, distortion, lo-fi, filters and so on are Thorn's internal fx.

Harry_HH - Disturbed Fugu.mp3
https://soundcloud.com/harry_mccloud/disturbed-fugu
DAW: Live 9.7 Standard
24 Instances Thorn 1.05
10 x Live Eq 8
8 x Live Glue Compressor
3 x Live Limiter
2 x Live Multiband compression
1 x TDR Kotelnikov
1 x Voxengo Span

jasinski - thorn_master.wav
https://soundcloud.com/jasinski/shadow- ... -105-thorn

J.Ruegg
https://soundcloud.com/jruegg/jruegg-inthornity
Ableton Live 9
42 instances of Thorn
EQ, Simple delay, Reverb, Glue Compressor, Compressor, Ping Pong delay, Arpeggiator
OTT, Limiter6, TDR Nova

L-EctroBit
https://soundcloud.com/l-ectrobit/l-ect ... ght-osc105
DAW: Tracktion 6
Thorn X 24
EQ
Compressor/Limiter
TAL Filter-2
LoudMax
DD Overdrive
A1StereoControl

Local Man
https://soundcloud.com/user-44872685/lo ... ng-strange
Logic
Thorn X 23
Compressor X 9
Channel EQ X 16
Enveloper X 3
Limiter No.6 X 3

Medniex - Frozen Fortress.wav
https://soundcloud.com/medniex/frozen-fortress
DAW: Ableton Live
25 X instances of Thorn
Host FX: Utility, Glue compression with sidechain, limiter, EQ Eight.

Mister Natural - Skon_Tagg_Mr_Natural_OSC_11.17.wav
https://soundcloud.com/mrnatural-1/skon ... l-osc-1117
Thorn x 21
LIVE 9
LIVE EFX : EQ8, Reverb, Limiter, PolyRhythm, Midi Chord, Corpus, Glue Compressor
on Master : Glue, EQ8, Overdrive, Saturator, Limiter

Mjr5house
https://soundcloud.com/mhouse-music/mho ... ew-osc-105
Daw - Ableton Live
All Plugins were stock Ableton and Thorn

mmGhost
https://soundcloud.com/mmghost/mmghost-metis-osc-105
Thorn x69
Logic Pro X
Logic FET Compressor
Logic Overdrive
W1 Limiter
Logic Channel EQ
Logic Tape Delay (for "tape effect")
Rough Rider
Logic Overdrive
xfer Dimension Xpander
A1 Stereo Control
Logic Studio VCA Compressor (just kissing the mix)
Logic Channel EQ
OTT
Limiter (just for trimming peaks)
Logic FET Compressor for Kik SC
presets can be downloaded here... https://www.dropbox.com/s/irhcxvndkzx4k ... s.zip?dl=0

Ones & Zeros [sqigls] - Ramble Thru the Brambles (KVR Challenge THORN Nov 2017).flac
https://soundcloud.com/onesnzeros/ones- ... n-nov-2017
Cubase 6.5
25 x THORN
1 x TDR Kotelnikov and 1 x George Yohng W1 Limiter on the master buss.
Presets: https://www.kvraudio.com/banks.php?s=dl&id=3176

ontrackp - Thorn4 Final3 USE.wav
https://soundcloud.com/ontrackp/ontrack ... c105-thorn
38 instances of Thorn
Logic Pro X EQ, Compressors, Reverb
OTT
Limiter No6

Richard Semper - Thorney Isle OSC100.flac
https://soundcloud.com/richard-semper/r ... sle-osc100
No of instances of Thorn - 15 - All Patches designed from Init.
DAW - MuLab
DAW Fx Used -
Corrective EQ on Bass and kick channels, EQ and limiting on Master channel
3rd Party Fx:- (on Master Bus) - Voxengo SPAN
DR= 10
Presets: http://www.kvraudio.com/banks.php?s=dl&id=3175

Taron - VioLovac.flac
https://soundcloud.com/taronium/taron-violovac
Thorn instances: #21 ( http://dmitrysches.com/products/thorn )
DAW: Mulab ( http://www.mutools.com )
Internal FX: Mid-Side Processor, delay_cross, level compressor
3rd Party FX: Auburn Sounds Panagement, Abstract Chamber, Unlimited, LoudMax64, OTT

teilo - Meanwhile Matters - OSC105.wav
https://soundcloud.com/teilo/meanwhile-matters
DAW: Bitwig 2.2.2
11 Thorn instances.
Bitwig Transient control
Bitwig 5-band EQ x 2
Bitwig Compressor x 3
Bitwig Reverb (very light, on drums).
iZotope Ozone Imager x 2

TheNeverScene - Thorn Test 10 PN wide.wav
https://soundcloud.com/the-never-scene/thornithopia
67 instances of Thorn (just stock waveforms, cuz I don't have any others)
Additional FX: PTEq-X, SlickHDR ,TDR Feedback Compressor II, TDR Kotelnikov, Pancake 2, MidiPolysher, JS Bass Manager, OrilRiver, ReaEQ, Tal Filter 2, Transpire, Bass Professor II, OTT, Limiter No6, UnLimited

Tj Shredder - Waves of Thornes.mp3
https://soundcloud.com/ondes-memorielle ... of-thornes

toggleaudio - Oslo.aif
https://soundcloud.com/toggleaudio/toggleaudio-oslo
15 instances of Thorn
4 x Channel EQ
1 x Gain
1 x Compressor
1 x Multipressor
1 x Limiter

toonertik - TheThornInMySide_OSC105.flac
https://soundcloud.com/toonertik/tooner ... ide-osc105
Reaper
12 x Thorn VSTi >> lot of Arp or moddulation used ;))))
2 x Nova EQ
2x JB_Broadcast
1 x epicVerb
1 x OrliRiver Reverb
1 x VOS_Rescue
1 x Limiter6
And some experimental work with free Reaper JS ATK (Ambisonics Tool Kit)on 4 tracks

zarf - no time.wav
https://soundcloud.com/zarf/zarf-no-time
24 instances of Thorn.
Ableton Live, with Ableton EQs, Compressors, Limiters, Reverbs, Utility
Third party fx: EngineersFilter, toTape, Ferric TDS, LoudMax


there's my playlist for this morning. I'm off to make a cuppa, and settle down to some [insert corny pun involving thorns, roses, crowns etc here]...

Thank you for taking part! and a HUGE thank you to Dmitry Sches for coding such an inviting, easy to use and awesome sounding synthesiser. Also, for the support and providing KVR members with a month free Thorn for this challenge. CHEERS D


OK! Keen to listen to them all, let's go!...
Last edited by sqigls on Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:16 am, edited 7 times in total.

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https://soundcloud.com/jruegg/jruegg-inthornity

DAW : Ableton Live 9

42 instances of Thorn

Live FXs:
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EQ
Simple delay
Reverb
Glue Compressor
Compressor
Ping Pong delay
Arpeggiator

External VST FXs:
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OTT
Limiter6
TDR Nova

Enjoy! :hyper:
Last edited by J.Ruegg on Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:32 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Feels weird this time, always ending up with dozens of tracks and project files after OSC, because this time the synth will expire.
Love this synth, should definitely buy it.
Here's some feedback for the version that was available at the beginning of the month.

Many of these issues have potentially arisen because the chosen code was optimized at the cost of functionality, however these solutions may very much help this synth.
- Envelopes - made easier to set fine amounts
- Lfos - monophonic by default
- EQ – G & F labeled Gain and Freq, for clarity
- Delay - able to be free from sync (enabling haas etc)
- Vibrato - able to be sync’d
- Filter post fx ought to be a routing option, otherwise more simply, include HPF and LPF in EQ section
- Gui should open faster which may mean having a less animated option
- Notes shouldn’t hang on several instances simultaneously very consistently in Tracktion 6
- Presets may benefit from being normalized, mid scooped, compressed, and closer to 50% spread for mono compatibility

This track is about how we're all in a simulation with no reference point for otherwise, inspired by and reminiscent of the older work by the chemical brothers, bassnectar, fatboy slim, crystal method and misc old racing game soundtracks. No fx, just xfer ott, melda mequalizer, variety of sound nastyvcs on the master of each section of ~7 instances of Thorn, maxing cpu and a tls maximizer to normalize one of them.
Cheers
https://soundcloud.com/unknownchallenge ... -kvrosc105
quick, _ake what you want in life

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Good job, snuck that in at the last minute... last 20 minutes :P

That shit's dope as f**k.
J.Ruegg wrote:https://soundcloud.com/jruegg/jruegg-inthornity

DAW : Ableton Live 9

42 instances of Thorn

Live FXs:
=========
EQ
Simple delay
Reverb
Glue Compressor
Compressor
Ping Pong delay
Arpeggiator

External VST FXs:
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OTT
Limiter6
TDR Nova

Enjoy! :hyper:

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Losless version HERE if anyone want's to listen to it in WAV format :)

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:phones: :phones: :phones: :phones:

I second Sqigls on that!
Just a touch of EQ and a tickle of compression

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Good luck everyone :party:

Hit me up via PM if you have a serious problem.

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Guenon - We Note No Movement on the Moon (1995 Chemical Beats Edit)



https://soundcloud.com/guenooni/guenon- ... n-the-moon

Default installation of Thorn with no imported wave or spectral data. Ableton Live 8, only built-in EQ, dynamic control and delay, plus vladg Limiter no6 on the master. All reverb, distortion, lo-fi, filters and so on are Thorn's internal fx.

Also:

Image

:party:

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sqigls wrote:I've just been through this whole thread downloading submissions, and I must say...

90% of people didn't tag their file, and 80% of people didn't name their file properly.
When you have a download folder with 20 files all called "OSC105.WAV... and you load them into a media player an they're all not tagged... bit of foresight is needed there i think.
also, a few people haven't enabled downloads.
Totally guilty here!! ugh. Didn't realize the download name would be actual file name. Good thing I didn't end up using Thorn Test 25 less bass just took a dump 3.mp3! That would have been awkward.
Just a touch of EQ and a tickle of compression

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