KVR Audio

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:48 am

Well, if they could model other amps and stomps, then they have to technology to model any amp and stomp they would want. Maybe it is a licensing issue?

kilroy · Post by **kilroy** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:04 am

As far as that Mesa sound goes, I think the SansAmp PSA comes the closest to getting that real aggressive rectifier torque. Not one other amp sim I am currently familiar with does these Mesa sounds quite like the PSA.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:01 am

kilroy wrote:You know...I'm beginning to think most of you lot would probably be just as happy with a SansAmp PSA-1.

Very responsive to dynamics, great sound, *great* analog preamp, no copy protection, straight forward interface, portable...plug in...dial a few knobs...and start feeling the luv.

Yeah well. That SansAmp is indeed rather high on my "to purchase soon" list. Small, convenient, no digital bullshit to mess around with (did I mention that I just had to replace the battery of my VAmp? All my presets lost... f**k them).

shamann wrote:
loophead wrote:"Well that bit of the code has not been implemented yet" he tells me .... !
So 24 pages of hype here, countless more on music sites all over the web, and the plugin isn't even finished yet?

I've been involved in a few beta tests, and it usually is a bad practice to implement a fundamental feature at the last minute without proper testing. "Hi testing team, I've rewritten the audio engine so that plugin no longer responds or sounds anything like it use to. Please try it out and get back to me ASAP, because I'd like to release it tomorrow."

Oi veh!

Yeah, this is indeed rather scary.
If that statement holds *any* truth it's nothing else but ridiculous. What else would a proper amp simulation be about but dynamic response to your playing?
I mean, this should've been one of the VERY first things to be implemented, not the VERY LAST.

It's just like "Oh well, you can test all of our new kickass 21976 OSC types VA synths features allready, but we're sorry, there's nothing but a sine wave OSC available so far".

putte · Post by **putte** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:39 am

.. there´s word that IK will announce Amplitube 3 at NAMM 2006, with the immediate availability right after musikmesse 2007 ..

tq · Post by tq » Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:43 am

putte wrote:.. there´s word that IK will announce Amplitube 3 at NAMM 2006, with the immediate availability right after musikmesse 2007 ..

You're sure? I thought they skip 3 and double everything, so that we have Amplitube 4 until Musikmesse 2009.

O.k., enough of this.

Give them a break, guys. We have about 24 pages of BS in this thread, and barely some useful information.

putte · Post by **putte** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:46 am

tq wrote:[O.k., enough of this. Give them a break, guys. We have about 24 pages of BS in this thread, and barely some useful information.

.. well, january (namm) isnt far away. we could all donate some bucks to IK and hope that they give us some free demo mp3´s by then .. good deal, no?

Len · Post by **Len** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:53 am

Nah, what IK will do is simply announce Amp 3, and be the first developers in the world to go to a new version without ever releasing the last one! Of course, they could then announce Amp 4, 5 and 6 and so on from year to year without ever releasing any of it!!!!

Now that would be marketing genius at work!!!!!!

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:12 pm

I'm boggled and amazed that nobody's mentioned all the false starts and advance hype that ST2 went through before it was finally released.

Greg

Funkybot · Post by **Funkybot** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:19 pm

Yeah IK definately needs to work on improving their announcement to release date problem. Fxpansion learned from 1.5 of BFD. Deluxe wasn't officially announced until it was ready to ship, and that's a great way of doing business.

IK though, I have a few big issues with, one is upgrade pricing, the second is the dongle (though if the plug-ins are good enough and I don't have system problems, I'll prolly purchase the plug and deal), and the third is the crazy waits between announcement and release. If they sorted out two of three issues I'd have no reservations about the company at all, And notice sound quality isn't on that list, whereas before AES I was a little skeptical of AT2, now I'm a lot more confident it will be good.

nool · Post by **nool** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:31 pm

dope !!!!!!!!!

Beardedone · Post by **Beardedone** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:39 pm

dope !!!!!!!!!

No thanks!

diverdee · Post by **diverdee** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:43 pm

Beardedone wrote:
dope !!!!!!!!!
No thanks!

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LlukaX · Post by **LlukaX** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:28 pm

amp gain plus tube screamer will give you plenty of distortion

loophead · Post by **loophead** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:15 pm

Thanks Midiworks for answering for me. A3ntar if you do not understand my statements (truly no offense) but your in the wrong field. The entire point of A3 is its supposed dynamics. When you change the volume from the instrument you alter level as well as impedence and a tube amps sound CHANGES. If this does not matter to you go buy Izotope Trash which is a far superior software sim to anything avaiable as of today. Its only lack is this particular issue.

Funny thing about IKMs ad concerning the 'dynamics' is it is an out and out lie as I built amp and distortion sims in the Eventide Orville/7000/7500/Eclipse and H8000 which all had this 'dynamic' capability...so IKM f'off and stop lieing in such a blatant manner !

As far as the dongle issue I was not only talking to the player but the IKM representative at the AES, so the dongle answer was from IKM. When I posted I was very explicit as I know you and others were desperate for real information.

Midiworks. What I hear from your work is quite exciting. Do not be a dope and be PC centric. Please port it over to the mac ASAP after it is done. I would be happy to chime in my support for your efforts.

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:40 pm

Thanks Midiworks for answering for me. A3ntar if you do not understand my statements (truly no offense) but your in the wrong field

Dude, I am in no field at all. I am just a simple giutarist looking for a good Amp simulator. It is really as simple as that. I am not pretending to be no expert on dymanics, impedence or sound changes.

The entire point of A3 is its supposed dynamics

You mean AT2? I don't know if that is the selling point of AT2, but this is the key point of DSM which AT2 is based on.

Btw, you know I appreciated your comment and I was in no way trying to undermine what you were saying. When I said that "Somehow i am confused with this statement", I mean it in an honest and genuine way, not because of what you said, but because I didn't understand the full parameters of your discussion.

If somebody else went to the AES and have witnessed AT2 up close and personal then please do tell about it.

Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!