SPC ArcSyn

[Daags]

Seem to be there are people here who think a GUI is just eye candy.

News flash. It is NOT.

A GUI has to be easy on the eyes. It has to be easy to navigate around. And it has to be large enough in each area to be able to work with.

ArcSyn fails in ALL THREE AREAS.

1) It's ugly as sin. The yellow and gray hurts my eyes.

2) It seems like stuff is just all over the place. It is not intuitively put together. In short, I have to hunt for things.

3) The matrix is TOO DAMN SMALL.

Put all of this together and it is a synth that I just don't want to use. And this is a synth that I put up there with my top 5 "unique sounding synths" that I own that, in spite of that, I will not buy.

So tell me again how the GUI isn't affecting sales. Truth is, you guys don't know that it isn't anymore than I know that it is. But I do know at least 2 or 3 people in this very thread that didn't buy it SPECIFICALLY because of the GUI.

And as somebody else said, with so many great synths out there that also look fantastic and not like they were put together in abstract art class, why should I spend a hundred bucks on something that I simply do not enjoy looking at and working with.

Minimize the importance of a GUI all you want. But it's the first thing I evaluate when I even consider buying a synth.

I would encourage the ArcSyn developer to check out this guy's website before taking his GUI posts the slightest bit seriously, the one he uses to sell his soundbanks. #irony #lol #bbqsauce

[Robmobius]

Seem to be there are people here who think a GUI is just eye candy.

News flash. It is NOT.

A GUI has to be easy on the eyes. It has to be easy to navigate around. And it has to be large enough in each area to be able to work with.

Well, actually I'd have to disagree in part. The function of a GUI is to aid the user's ability to use the product as efficiently as possible. In fact really good design is often unobtrusive (that's for a different topic).

Arc's GUI is not perfect by any means (or maybe not the nicest). And I'd agree, the matrix is too small and there are other niggles (like most synths have). But overall its easy to use, so therefore it has succeeded in its goal irregardless of how good or bad it looks.

A lot of it is personal preference too... I like dark GUIs an the color scheme does'nt bother me. Or should I say I don't notice it when I'm using it. So you can't please everyone.

[wagtunes]

Seem to be there are people here who think a GUI is just eye candy.

News flash. It is NOT.

A GUI has to be easy on the eyes. It has to be easy to navigate around. And it has to be large enough in each area to be able to work with.

ArcSyn fails in ALL THREE AREAS.

1) It's ugly as sin. The yellow and gray hurts my eyes.

2) It seems like stuff is just all over the place. It is not intuitively put together. In short, I have to hunt for things.

3) The matrix is TOO DAMN SMALL.

Put all of this together and it is a synth that I just don't want to use. And this is a synth that I put up there with my top 5 "unique sounding synths" that I own that, in spite of that, I will not buy.

So tell me again how the GUI isn't affecting sales. Truth is, you guys don't know that it isn't anymore than I know that it is. But I do know at least 2 or 3 people in this very thread that didn't buy it SPECIFICALLY because of the GUI.

And as somebody else said, with so many great synths out there that also look fantastic and not like they were put together in abstract art class, why should I spend a hundred bucks on something that I simply do not enjoy looking at and working with.

Minimize the importance of a GUI all you want. But it's the first thing I evaluate when I even consider buying a synth.

I would encourage the ArcSyn developer to check out this guy's website before taking his GUI posts the slightest bit seriously, the one he uses to sell his soundbanks. #irony #lol #bbqsauce

I don't have to be a graphic designer to know what I like and don't like. Doesn't matter what my sites look like. What matters is what HIS synth looks like. Everything else is irrelevant.

[wagtunes]

NVM

[surreal]

Dude wagtunes... chill...

You go on as if you have shares in this synth company... if it bothers you then reskin it if you know better. .. until then chill and mind your own business and on stuff that really matters!!!

[wagtunes]

Dude wagtunes... chill...

You go on as if you have shares in this synth company... if it bothers you then reskin it if you know better. .. until then chill and mind your own business and on stuff that really matters!!!

Actually, this IS my business. I love the way this synth sounds. As I said, it is one of my top 5 unique sounding synths that I've heard in the last 2 years. I'd love to buy it so that I can create a sound library for it and sell it and make lots of money doing it.

But I can't because the GUI gives me a headache.

This can't be more relevant to me. It's extremely difficult these days to find synths that I don't already own to create libraries for. This would have been a perfect one. But I can't work with it.

So how does that not matter?

[Daags]

Dude wagtunes... chill...

You go on as if you have shares in this synth company... if it bothers you then reskin it if you know better. .. until then chill and mind your own business and on stuff that really matters!!!

Actually, this IS my business. I love the way this synth sounds. As I said, it is one of my top 5 unique sounding synths that I've heard in the last 2 years. I'd love to buy it so that I can create a sound library for it and sell it and make lots of money doing it.

But I can't because the GUI gives me a headache.

This can't be more relevant to me. It's extremely difficult these days to find synths that I don't already own to create libraries for. This would have been a perfect one. But I can't work with it.

So how does that not matter?

aren't you supposed to be savvy to marketing etc ? at least according to your website
http://www.stevewagenheim.com/


if you want to buy it to make a commercial sound library to sell and make lots of money (which you never seem to want to spend on your own preset business's interface: your presets website. but i digress), then surely a supposedly inscrutable GUI is a marketing opportunity ... "have trouble with ArcSyn's GUI ? not to worry! I've cooked up all the sounds you'll ever need. Just load 'em up and browse. You'll be making double platinum hit records in no time at all, or my name isn't Steve Wagenheim!"

for a marketing veteran you sure do have a lot to learn.

[wagtunes]

Dude wagtunes... chill...

You go on as if you have shares in this synth company... if it bothers you then reskin it if you know better. .. until then chill and mind your own business and on stuff that really matters!!!

Actually, this IS my business. I love the way this synth sounds. As I said, it is one of my top 5 unique sounding synths that I've heard in the last 2 years. I'd love to buy it so that I can create a sound library for it and sell it and make lots of money doing it.

But I can't because the GUI gives me a headache.

This can't be more relevant to me. It's extremely difficult these days to find synths that I don't already own to create libraries for. This would have been a perfect one. But I can't work with it.

So how does that not matter?

aren't you supposed to be savvy to marketing etc ? at least according to your website
http://www.stevewagenheim.com/


if you want to buy it to make a commercial sound library to sell and make lots of money (which you never seem to want to spend on your own preset business's interface: your presets website. but i digress), then surely a supposedly inscrutable GUI is a marketing opportunity ... "have trouble with ArcSyn's GUI ? not to worry! I've cooked up all the sounds you'll ever need. Just load 'em up and browse. You'll be making double platinum hit records in no time at all, or my name isn't Steve Wagenheim!"

for a marketing veteran you sure do have a lot to learn.

How can I make the sounds if I can't work with the synth?

What, Peter Pan is going to magically make them for me?

[shroom81]

Guy's chill out, this is adding nothing to the discussion but negativity. Have a joint or two and then come back to the discussion, happy and relaxed (w/a slight hint of paranoia)

[surreal]

Actually come to think of it.. you have quite a common trait with Peter Pan

[Daags]

Dude wagtunes... chill...

You go on as if you have shares in this synth company... if it bothers you then reskin it if you know better. .. until then chill and mind your own business and on stuff that really matters!!!

Actually, this IS my business. I love the way this synth sounds. As I said, it is one of my top 5 unique sounding synths that I've heard in the last 2 years. I'd love to buy it so that I can create a sound library for it and sell it and make lots of money doing it.

But I can't because the GUI gives me a headache.

This can't be more relevant to me. It's extremely difficult these days to find synths that I don't already own to create libraries for. This would have been a perfect one. But I can't work with it.

So how does that not matter?

aren't you supposed to be savvy to marketing etc ? at least according to your website
http://www.stevewagenheim.com/


if you want to buy it to make a commercial sound library to sell and make lots of money (which you never seem to want to spend on your own preset business's interface: your presets website. but i digress), then surely a supposedly inscrutable GUI is a marketing opportunity ... "have trouble with ArcSyn's GUI ? not to worry! I've cooked up all the sounds you'll ever need. Just load 'em up and browse. You'll be making double platinum hit records in no time at all, or my name isn't Steve Wagenheim!"

for a marketing veteran you sure do have a lot to learn.

How can I make the sounds if I can't work with the synth?

wow, ya, so the dev is literally taking bread out of your mouth with his GUI choices.

anyway, it doesn't say much about you as a professional sound designer if everyone else is making patches just fine ... and a guy who sells presets to 'make lots of money' is throwing his toys out of the pram.

[wagtunes]

Actually come to think of it.. you have quite a common trait with Peter Pan

Hey that's funny. Which comedy club can I catch your act at?

[SciFiArtMan]

Well, the truth is - there's really no point in going on and on and on about the GUI. It is, what it is. I only previously mentioned giving specific suggestions to help make your complaints at least more constructive (not that anyone is responding to me).

Maybe it's time to focus more on the synth's SOUND and functionality, which the dev would probably consider for future changes. But belly-aching about the GUI is futile, at this point. I do know the dev's future plans have nothing to do with simply changing colors and repositioning the logo, and will include utilizing a talented GUI designer and most likely vector-based graphics.

Of course everyone will do as they please, but the GUI issue has been beat to death, and it is serving no purpose, after the fact.

This synth is capable of many unique and interesting SOUNDS, and I think many are missing the target in their time expenditures for this synth. If you don't like it, fine. But if you can overlook its shortcoming (as most do in almost every softsynth), it sure can make some fascinating SOUNDS, and that's the best part of any sonic tool, to me.

I'd personally like to hear how people are experimenting with the various functions of the synth! Suggesting interesting insights into how the random function can be somewhat directed. Sharing new tips and tricks for making great SOUNDS!

[fisherKing]

Actually come to think of it.. you have quite a common trait with Peter Pan

Hey that's funny. Which comedy club can I catch your act at?

YOU"RE the one who's set this in motion. why is it so important to you? you don't like the GUI, so...move on. instead, you're on the defensive, you've started a poll about your issues with arcsyn. what do you hope to achieve, anyway? that the developer will change up the GUI to accomodate your personal needs?

breathe. then do something productive with your time (i'm off, to further explore this remarkable synth...)

[surreal]

Actually come to think of it.. you have quite a common trait with Peter Pan

Hey that's funny. Which comedy club can I catch your act at?

Never Neverland... next to Wonderland