It's like if I went and tried to tell the people who make Lamborghinis; ya know, it's just too low to the ground and it's tough get seated in that thing...etc..Teksonik wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:30 am Do you people even know what you're arguing about anymore ? What is your point again ?
Why are people who have never designed anything trying to school someone who has already designed several plugin interfaces that have been quite popular and highly functional over the years ?
Hive 2 is coming!
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- KVRAF
- 9847 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
@Teksonik
Your only replies here have been ad hominems.
Just let the adults talk.
And we know very well what we are talking about ( both Bones and me).
Just go lick someone's boots.
Your only replies here have been ad hominems.
Just let the adults talk.
And we know very well what we are talking about ( both Bones and me).
Just go lick someone's boots.
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
TBH, in this business, i don't think that's much of an argument. There's plugins from very popular and famous companies whose GUI's are absolutely horrible.Teksonik wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:30 am Do you people even know what you're arguing about anymore ? What is your point again ?
Why are people who have never designed anything trying to school someone who has already designed several plugin interfaces that have been quite popular and highly functional over the years ?
Not that i find the Hive GUI horrible. The version 1 one wasn't so great though. And, no, i never created a skin or a GUI for a synthesizer as well. Does that mean that my judgment is completely incompetent? I think i used enough software in my life to be able to distinguish between a good, clear and usable GUI, and a unusable one. GUI design is an art, only perfected by really skilled people.
- KVRAF
- 19788 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Awww what's the matter sweetheart did you get triggered ? Go to your safe place and get a hugStefken wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:34 pm @Teksonik
And we know very well what we are talking about ( both Bones and me).
Ok Mister "I know what I'm talking about" design a better GUI for Hive.
Can't do it ? Then sit down and shut up bitch.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
- KVRAF
- 19788 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
That's my point....what is the argument ?chk071 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:35 pm TBH, in this business, i don't think that's much of an argument.
They know better than the guy who has been doing is successfully for years ?
Ok then prove it....or shut up.
I've used BONES' GUI's many times over the years so I know he has talent. The whiny little bitches who just like to complain haven't proven anything other than they are whiny little bitches.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
- addled muppet weed
- 111242 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
mjolniiiiiiir!
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
Teksonik., you are the boss around here?
Yeah, expert in insults and idiot where actual knowledge is concerned. I know the kind.
You're going on my shitlist. End of story.
Yeah, expert in insults and idiot where actual knowledge is concerned. I know the kind.
You're going on my shitlist. End of story.
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
As i mentioned, "They are professionals and you not" is a non-argument.Teksonik wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:46 pmThat's my point....what is the argument ?chk071 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:35 pm TBH, in this business, i don't think that's much of an argument.
They know better than the guy who has been doing is successfully for years ?
Ok then prove it....or shut up.![]()
I've used BONES' GUI's many times over the years so I know he has talent. The whiny little bitches who just like to complain haven't proven anything other than they are whiny little bitches.![]()
- KVRAF
- 19788 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
You mean people who talk smack and can't back it up like this.......Stefken wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:50 pm Yeah, expert in insults and idiot where actual knowledge is concerned. I know the kind.
Again make a mockup GUI for Hive to show you know what you're talking about. Otherwise you're just talking smack.Stefken wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:45 am You think i'm going to write a book here and show all the rules that have been broken when they can't even follow some simple gestalt rules? Hell no.
Buy some UI design books, learn the rules and get some experience. Then we'll talk.
Bones has already proven he has the GUI talent so he gets to talk. You haven't so you don't........
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
- KVRAF
- 19788 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Certainly we can have our opinions but when someone starts acting like they know better than someone who is already doing it then they need to prove it....or shut up.chk071 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:50 pm An experienced user can of course distinguish between a usable GUI and non usable one.
Talk is easy.....backing it up not so much.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- KVRian
- 969 posts since 5 Sep, 2014 from Heaven
You know how pinball machines have those two paddles to flick the ball back up? Why don't synths have paddles like that? They're like levers or door handles - fixed at one end and the rest moves. Why do synths always have buttons or knobs but never levers?
- KVRAF
- 19788 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Let me make an analogy....Say I am trying to tell Joe Bonamassa how the play the blues, he's not doing it right, doesn't know what he's doing etc. Someone then says "let's hear how you play the Blues.
At that point I better damn well be able to play the blues better than Joe or I should just sit down and shut up or I am making myself look like a fool.
Like I said talk is cheap......
At that point I better damn well be able to play the blues better than Joe or I should just sit down and shut up or I am making myself look like a fool.
Like I said talk is cheap......
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None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
- addled muppet weed
- 111242 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
now i want a pinball synth.
sequenced by ball bearings hitting the posts.
sequenced by ball bearings hitting the posts.
- KVRAF
- 19788 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Virtual Pachinko machine ! Launch the ball and hope a song comes out......vurt wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:09 pm now i want a pinball synth.
sequenced by ball bearings hitting the posts.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
- KVRAF
- 4062 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from A Swede Living in Budapest
Now we are talking! And in certain patch configurations you can trigger a multiball.spunkmuffin wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:03 pm You know how pinball machines have those two paddles to flick the ball back up? Why don't synths have paddles like that? They're like levers or door handles - fixed at one end and the rest moves. Why do synths always have buttons or knobs but never levers?
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