IKs MixBox

[TBlake]

Yea it's quite odd they discontinued it right after aggressively marketing TS4 max for months, which included mixbox among other products that have also been dropped. I just bought it 2 weeks back or so and am already experiencing a bit of buyer's remorse. Ofc I know I can continue to use it for a while, but the absence of future proofing just adds that little bit of hesitation.

The other strange thing is they've also discontinued syntronik 2, and while the syntronik libraries are still available in sampletank 4 max v2 this is not included in TS5 max for some reason.

I guess these are the kinds of things that make IK unpopular, and why they continue to remain so. Otoh they seem to have also taken some positive steps recently, like no longer requiring license transfer credits for hardware (like the uno synth etc), which frankly was a mind boggling policy to begin with. Also buying extra download credits after 6 months etc. So it's like 1-2 steps forward and 1-2 steps back. Or perhaps this is part of an attempt to streamline their line-up, and it'll make more sense in time. But then why continue to offer the syntronik libraries but not include them in TS5? That seems odd even for IK.

Typical kick in the teeth to IK customers...

[chagzuki]

That would appear to explain why there's been some extremely cheap deals on it in the last couple of months at places like audioplugindeals. Izotope did the same with Phoenixverb and R4, sold them cheap as chips prior to ending support. If it looks too good to be true it probably is, though in fairness if it can still be used indefinitely it might still be a good product at a low price. I think Phoenixverb still runs as an AU with Rosetta, so even on Mac OS you can get good mileage out of terminated software.

[concealed identity]

That would appear to explain why there's been some extremely cheap deals on it in the last couple of months at places like audioplugindeals. Izotope did the same with Phoenixverb and R4, sold them cheap as chips prior to ending support. If it looks too good to be true it probably is, though in fairness if it can still be used indefinitely it might still be a good product at a low price. I think Phoenixverb still runs as an AU with Rosetta, so even on Mac OS you can get good mileage out of terminated software.

I think it's been that sale price for quite a while, I bought it over a year and a half ago for $25 (unless you're talking about an even cheaper price recently).

[plexuss]

That would appear to explain why there's been some extremely cheap deals on it in the last couple of months at places like audioplugindeals. Izotope did the same with Phoenixverb and R4, sold them cheap as chips prior to ending support. If it looks too good to be true it probably is, though in fairness if it can still be used indefinitely it might still be a good product at a low price. I think Phoenixverb still runs as an AU with Rosetta, so even on Mac OS you can get good mileage out of terminated software.

I think it's been that sale price for quite a while, I bought it over a year and a half ago for $25 (unless you're talking about an even cheaper price recently).

Yeah that was in fall 2023. it was acutally $25 with a coupon code. Too bad to hear they are abandoning it. but... thats software. i am slowly getting used to it. good thing we have so much more to choose from. and a lot of the abandoned stuff will still run. its good to remember how much value we get out of music software vs hardware related to quality vs cost. part of the cost is not being able to run old software. i dont think its over-all too bad frankly. but, unfortunate.

[DrGonzo]

MixBox RIP

Oh damn it
I really liked Mixbox.

[Digivolt]

MixBox RIP

It is no longer offered for sale

https://forum.ikmultimedia.com/viewtopi ... 13&t=41070

You would think they would at least mention that to the likes of Plugin Boutique who currently have it on sale for £19.99 so they could mention it in the sales pitch, I imagine they have at least spoken to PB to authorise a sale to be placed on it, seems sneaky to not say to potential buyers it's now a end of life product even if it is only £19.99 and still a decent deal at least for windows users

[concealed identity]

MixBox RIP

It is no longer offered for sale

https://forum.ikmultimedia.com/viewtopi ... 13&t=41070

You would think they would at least mention that to the likes of Plugin Boutique who currently have it on sale for £19.99 so they could mention it in the sales pitch, I imagine they have at least spoken to PB to authorise a sale to be placed on it, seems sneaky to not say to potential buyers it's now a end of life product even if it is only £19.99 and still a decent deal at least for windows users

This happens all the time with plugins being sold on third-party sites (Plugin Boutique, Audio Deluxe, etc.) and I've always wondered why. I would assume companies would pull their old versions or cancelled plugins from these shops, but it's so common. In some cases this has worked to my advantage (e.g. I bought Izotope DDLY recently from an authorized seller).

[ZargonTheMagnificent]

Not surprised they discontinued it really as it was (even at full price) crazy good value. I've used it for any number of projects, and will continue to do so (at least for the next album). Can't think of anything comparable in terms of 'need X on this track, CBA looking through the plugin folder...ah mixbox!'!

[MusikalischeFreiheit]

i wonder why ? it was a good product maybe v2 is coming ...

[paramita123]

i wonder why ? it was a good product maybe v2 is coming ...

I doubt ! IK would normally just update straight to a new version.
Most likely they didn't see as many sales as they wanted and decided to put the focus on T-Racks. So what I really really hope is that they port the cool stuff that was in MIXBOX into the latter.
For example the filters ...
If they consolidate that into T-Racks, improve the GUI and UX, add some post-skeuo functionality, then fix the purchase/upgrade paths, it will really be an attractive package in my opinion.

[jens]

Can't think of anything comparable in terms of 'need X on this track, CBA looking through the plugin folder...ah mixbox!'!

Well, if we look at what it actually is and then consider possible products to compare it to, then the P&M VIP bundle comes to mind, which imo gives Mixbox a run for its money.

Thing is: in theory it's quite nice indeed to have such a sort of toolbox with high quality emulations of all this legendary vintage hardware as opposed to... things that are more on the "inspired by" side of things, but then again: when push comes to shove, with this sort of stuff one is looking for quick-to-set-and-forget-and-does-exactly-what-it-says-on-the-tin-and-sounds-really-great-at-it (i.e. the main priority is fast, great and reliable results rather than authencity), and then I think P&M really has the upper hand... which may be kind of a problem, especially if the streamlined thing is supposed to wet the appetite for the full course offer...

[mumpcake]

I think one of the problems of Mixbox is that people saw it as a limited hybrid of Amplitube and T-Racks.

The other problem is that people saw a component added in one or the other, and expected it to get put into Mixbox. They did add Sunset Reverb at a cost, but people weren't going for it. Especially not T-Racks customers who felt that they were being asked to pay twice for the same component.

It can't help that people who like IK products weren't really hyping it either. If someone on the forum would ask if Mixbox was any good, you'd get a lot of responses saying "sure, for what it is..." and then maybe waiting for T-Racks to go on sale.

It wasn't at all a bad product but it didn't really make sense in terms of their existing offerings.

[penbox_eu]

I have Mixbox SE and in the near future I should change my computer. Will I be able to install it on the new machine?

[dmbaer]

It wasn't at all a bad product but it didn't really make sense in terms of their existing offerings.

Can't agree on this point. Mixbox was essentially the FX section of Sampletank and Syntronic, which were high-points of those instruments. But furthermore, compared to T-Racks, MixBox has a few advantages. First, all the presets were guaranteed to work, whereas with T-Racks, you had to actually have all the components included in a preset, which was pretty hit or miss. Also, maybe minor, but all the Mixbox modules had a dry/wet mix ability, which was not the case in many (most?) T-racks versions. I assume that that the T-Racks code base was used where appropriate in MixBox, so the audio quality was high at relatively little cost to either IKM or the customer, which did make sense to my way of thinking.

While I have many of the T-Racks modules (all the good ones for my own purposes), I think MixBox is a dandy piece of virtual gear, even if I don't have cause to use it very often.

[AGIGA]

Someone deleted my comment from yesterday. Why ?