Depends. I paid for my version.MusikalischeFreiheit wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 11:57 am oh comon guys , its a free plugin , give him time
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- KVRian
- 1045 posts since 21 Sep, 2009
You wasted our time with this awful takeReline wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 10:57 amHe wastes his time with gfx gimmicks on github instead of updating und bugfixing Vital!dkdkfkfkfkkfkfkf wrote: Sun May 11, 2025 8:12 pm ... the developer might spend time on something bigger in the meantime. there's nothing wrong with that.
- KVRist
- 387 posts since 4 Apr, 2021
I think the problem is, some people did pay for the plugin (or even paid/are paying for the subscription). So it’s not free for everyone and there were some promises about updates and bug fixes especially for the pro or subscribers if I understand correct.MusikalischeFreiheit wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 11:57 am oh comon guys , its a free plugin , give him time
So it is a bit confusing maybe because of that.
Some people who paid might feel they did not get what was promised. Maybe that’s the case?
And some people who paid for it, have had some bugs and no fix to those bugs. So that is sure frustrating naturally. Especially when the synth is so promising and it seems those bugs are not for everyone if I remember correctly.
- KVRian
- 1395 posts since 16 Jan, 2004
I think the main concern I have is future support. As operating systems and hardware/tech changes, we need code to be fixed/recompiled for newer systems when necessary. Without an active dev, we have less of a guarantee (there's never a full guarantee) that what we're using now will be usable in the future on new systems.
- KVRAF
- 3642 posts since 6 Aug, 2009
i've been using vital (which i bought) since it dropped, on every version of logic pro/mac os since, and all is well. so not going to worry about 'the future' until a non-working vital future gets here (IF that happens).
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- KVRist
- 107 posts since 29 Mar, 2004
It will happen and what you are doing is fine but people who don't know how to use Vital should invest the time somewhere else. 1 -3 sentences from the dev/company could change this POV but its probably out of his hands as some company could of purchased the IPfisherKing wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 7:31 pm i've been using vital (which i bought) since it dropped, on every version of logic pro/mac os since, and all is well. so not going to worry about 'the future' until a non-working vital future gets here (IF that happens).
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- KVRAF
- 2756 posts since 24 Nov, 2023
The same could be said of basically any piece of software even from big developersjrwaltb wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 11:27 pmIt will happen and what you are doing is fine but people who don't know how to use Vital should invest the time somewhere else. 1 -3 sentences from the dev/company could change this POV but its probably out of his hands as some company could of purchased the IPfisherKing wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 7:31 pm i've been using vital (which i bought) since it dropped, on every version of logic pro/mac os since, and all is well. so not going to worry about 'the future' until a non-working vital future gets here (IF that happens).
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- KVRian
- 1136 posts since 2 Oct, 2021
my 2 cents
I changed software for certain tasks like synths compressors, eqs, etc. lotsa times over the years and found out that everything is exchangable. Some better than others.
All of them gave me means to create my music.
I really like Vital.
There are things about the sound and the workflow that does it for me.
When Vital will not work for me anymore then I will use something else.
It wil be like an old guitar that I don't have anymore.
Gone.
These days we have tons of good quality options and a lot of them are even free.
I don't hold my breath anymore about if something could break.
I changed software for certain tasks like synths compressors, eqs, etc. lotsa times over the years and found out that everything is exchangable. Some better than others.
All of them gave me means to create my music.
I really like Vital.
There are things about the sound and the workflow that does it for me.
When Vital will not work for me anymore then I will use something else.
It wil be like an old guitar that I don't have anymore.
Gone.
These days we have tons of good quality options and a lot of them are even free.
I don't hold my breath anymore about if something could break.
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- KVRer
- 5 posts since 20 Jan, 2022
Exactly. Can’t count times when paid plugins or any other piece of software was abandoned.IvyBirds wrote: Wed May 28, 2025 2:39 amThe same could be said if basically any piece of software even from big developersjrwaltb wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 11:27 pmIt will happen and what you are doing is fine but people who don't know how to use Vital should invest the time somewhere else. 1 -3 sentences from the dev/company could change this POV but its probably out of his hands as some company could of purchased the IPfisherKing wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 7:31 pm i've been using vital (which i bought) since it dropped, on every version of logic pro/mac os since, and all is well. so not going to worry about 'the future' until a non-working vital future gets here (IF that happens).
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- KVRist
- 107 posts since 29 Mar, 2004
The developer wants everyone to stop talking about his software, I am sure it pisses him off that videos are still being made about it. Honestly, the fact he let it go on this long and still is taking peoples money means no matter what happens I will never purchase his future software and I am sure many feel the same.
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- KVRAF
- 2756 posts since 24 Nov, 2023
He made a free piece of software, that software currently works very well on Windows, Mac, and Linuxjrwaltb wrote: Wed May 28, 2025 4:33 pm The developer wants everyone to stop talking about his software, I am sure it pisses him off that videos are still being made about it. Honestly, the fact he let it go on this long and still is taking peoples money means no matter what happens I will never purchase his future software and I am sure many feel the same.
Anyone that wants it can download it for free. You can also buy preset packs and extra Wavetable content if you choose.
The Wavetables can also be exported into another Wavetable Synths if you so desire
Not sure why it's so offensive that he is selling preset packs and wave tables for his free synth that he still has available to download? If someone wants to download the free synth and use it, should they not be allowed to buy extra Wavetables and presets for it? That sounds rather silly that people think he shouldn't
If you choose to buy it, the "pro" version of Vital costs $80. Even in late May in 2025 that is a tremendous bargain considering that other similar Synths costs hundreds more
I really don't understand all the hate. As a Windows user who uses the VST3 version I fully expect to be able to use the current version of Vital for many years to come, decades probably if I wanted
It's simply not going to turn into a pumpkin at midnight or something
If I was an Apple user I might be concerned that it might stop working in a few years, but that's an Apple issue and anyone using Apple products needs to plan for Apple's planned obsolescence and that applies to all of their software not just vital
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- KVRist
- 107 posts since 29 Mar, 2004
Look, I didn't pay, so I have no skin in this game. My only point is: if you're new, don't waste your time, and most importantly, don't pay for Vital as it's a dead project. Support the active devs out there (free and paid) before you drop countless hours learning something that's dead—SurgeXT, PhasePlant, Serum 2, Serum 1, U-he. Also, I don't care, but I'm pretty sure he started charging for Vital with the pitch being "updates, new features, etc." Three or two sentences on Twitter by the dev and I wouldn't have this viewpoint. Keep in mind this is only advice to newcomers: use whatever you need to make music, and who cares if it's a dead project.IvyBirds wrote: Wed May 28, 2025 6:37 pmHe made a free piece of software, that software currently works very well on Windows, Mac, and Linuxjrwaltb wrote: Wed May 28, 2025 4:33 pm The developer wants everyone to stop talking about his software, I am sure it pisses him off that videos are still being made about it. Honestly, the fact he let it go on this long and still is taking peoples money means no matter what happens I will never purchase his future software and I am sure many feel the same.
Anyone that wants it can download it for free. You can also buy preset packs and extra Wavetable content if you choose.
The Wavetables can also be exported into another Wavetable Synths if you so desire
Not sure why it's so offensive that he is selling preset packs and wave tables for his free synth that he still has available to download? If someone wants to download the free synth and use it, should they not be allowed to buy extra Wavetables and presets for it? That sounds rather silly that people think he shouldn't
If you choose to buy it, the "pro" version of Vital costs $80. Even in late May in 2025 that is a tremendous bargain considering that other similar Synths costs hundreds more
I really don't understand all the hate. As a Windows user who uses the VST3 version I fully expect to be able to use the current version of Vital for many years to come, decades probably if I wanted
It's simply not going to turn into a pumpkin at midnight or something
If I was an Apple user I might be concerned that it might stop working in a few years, but that's an Apple issue and anyone using Apple products needs to plan for Apple's planned obsolescence and that applies to all of their software not just vital
- KVRAF
- 3642 posts since 6 Aug, 2009
any developer can shut down; look at dear reality. meanwhile, vital is working now, & is pretty awesome. i will use it as long as i can, and IF, one day, it no longer works... i'll use something else. simple, reallyjrwaltb wrote: Wed May 28, 2025 8:27 pm
Look, I didn't pay, so I have no skin in this game. My only point is: if you're new, don't waste your time, and most importantly, don't pay for Vital as it's a dead project. Support the active devs out there (free and paid) before you drop countless hours learning something that's dead—SurgeXT, PhasePlant, Serum 2, Serum 1, U-he. Also, I don't care, but I'm pretty sure he started charging for Vital with the pitch being "updates, new features, etc." Three or two sentences on Twitter by the dev and I wouldn't have this viewpoint. Keep in mind this is only advice to newcomers: use whatever you need to make music, and who cares if it's a dead project.
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- KVRian
- 1273 posts since 28 Sep, 2012 from Norway
...And I wonder how those who bought the Dear Reality bundle feels now, when it is given away for free.
