What is the difference between music and noise? [years-dead slappyfight revived]
- addled muppet weed
- 111292 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
of course not.
silly boy.
silly boy.
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- KVRAF
- 9521 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Noise is a by-product of energy released in an environment where vibrations can exist,
and sound waves can travel and reflect.
Humans and animals can produce vibrations both voluntary and involuntary (organic by-products and that sort) and can utilize noise 'musically', to attract fans or mates, or for other purposes, military, industrial, commercial, territorial etc.
So music as an entity does not exist, per se, but the word itself can be useful to classify and describe some of the sounds made by analog creatures, and some natural occurrences. These are of course, warmer in nature than muzak, which is purely digital, colder and harsh, consisting only of 0 and 1 repeated in odd combinations within stark host environments, which are alien to human and animal audio receptors.
and sound waves can travel and reflect.
Humans and animals can produce vibrations both voluntary and involuntary (organic by-products and that sort) and can utilize noise 'musically', to attract fans or mates, or for other purposes, military, industrial, commercial, territorial etc.
So music as an entity does not exist, per se, but the word itself can be useful to classify and describe some of the sounds made by analog creatures, and some natural occurrences. These are of course, warmer in nature than muzak, which is purely digital, colder and harsh, consisting only of 0 and 1 repeated in odd combinations within stark host environments, which are alien to human and animal audio receptors.
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- Skunk Mod
- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
Not Percy, no -- Barry.glokraw wrote:So music as an entity does not exist, per se
For did not Manilow write: "I am music, and I write the songs"?
So there's the difference. Barry Manilow is music. Noise is that which is not Barry Manilow.
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- KVRAF
- 9521 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
I thought Barry was a sonic by-product of producers wearing mint-greenMeffy wrote:Not Percy, no -- Barry.glokraw wrote:So music as an entity does not exist, per se
For did not Manilow write: "I am music, and I write the songs"?
So there's the difference. Barry Manilow is music. Noise is that which is not Barry Manilow.
leisure suits?
(producers out here now wear wife-beaters and tatts, mint green is frowned upon)
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- KVRAF
- 16977 posts since 23 Jun, 2010 from north of London ON
OI--Barry Manilow is music?--Meffy wrote:Not Percy, no -- Barry.glokraw wrote:So music as an entity does not exist, per se
For did not Manilow write: "I am music, and I write the songs"?
So there's the difference. Barry Manilow is music. Noise is that which is not Barry Manilow.
YOIKS!!!
Barry
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
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- Banned
- 3946 posts since 25 Jan, 2009
Music:
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=itwL5y0He ... re=related
Just close your eyes and listen.
Noise:
Just close your eyes (for God's sake!)
But make no mistake: I looooooooooooooooooooooove both! However, A pro producer might be able to make the noise less noisy but that might undermine the whole point, I guess!
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=itwL5y0He ... re=related
Just close your eyes and listen.
Noise:
Just close your eyes (for God's sake!)
But make no mistake: I looooooooooooooooooooooove both! However, A pro producer might be able to make the noise less noisy but that might undermine the whole point, I guess!
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Funksploitation Funksploitation https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=211249
- KVRist
- 49 posts since 13 Jul, 2009
Well, you and Vurt must have the musical chops of Frankie the Piano-playing Chicken. whatever floats your boat though.Genetic_Junk wrote:Nice. Thanks for link. Wish it was 20 minutes longer.vurt wrote:cheers!Funksploitation wrote:
thats pretty cool.
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- KVRAF
- 10170 posts since 2 Jan, 2005 from somewhere in the woods
hi Schorsch,Klemperer wrote:Now I finally found out, what "typisch deutsch" ismellotronaut wrote:
the listener is always the one, who decides and the one who discriminates between music and noise. The first one, who listens, is the one, who decides to implement or to drop unintended elements and make them intended by a conscious act, if they are implemented.. (And I don't mean this as an insult or something like that. It's just that this, if spoken by someone from any country, is typical german to me. Which might not be so terribly interesting to the rest of the world population. I never thought something like this even existed^^.
seems, you read only books that are written by german eggheads.
cheers and ¡Viva España!
da mello
"It dreamed itself along"
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- KVRAF
- 11839 posts since 23 Nov, 2004 from west of east
If only it were that simple.TiUser wrote:Maybe another definition could be that it's music if you get payed for it...
We escape the trap of our own subjectivity by
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey
- KVRAF
- 1617 posts since 11 Dec, 2008 from Minneapolis
Here's an interesting take on noise:
Stephen Colbert interviews Garret Keizer
Stephen Colbert interviews Garret Keizer
- addled muppet weed
- 111292 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
does also liking the first link improve my "chops"? (mmm chops)Funksploitation wrote:Well, you and Vurt must have the musical chops of Frankie the Piano-playing Chicken. whatever floats your boat though.Genetic_Junk wrote:Nice. Thanks for link. Wish it was 20 minutes longer.vurt wrote:cheers!Funksploitation wrote:
thats pretty cool.
as, i did like it, it just wasnt new to me, unlike the one i commented on.
do you have a link to frankie the piano playing chicken (mmm chicken...) he sounds finger lickingly awesome!
im afraid i dont have a boat