Cubase 8.5 here any day now...and the day has come
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lol, I guess I don't have the patience to get past those first few idiotic pages to figure out of someone actually makes a valid comparison at some point.TheoM wrote:SJ_Digriz wrote:I don't know, there was 3 pages of Steinberg is price gouging on the top hit from my search.TheoM wrote:That's funny i just read the first page and it's all about pdc and useful info.
What thread you reading?
out of 84 pages that's not bad
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This works, it is quick when you get the hang of it, no it isn't as elegant as Logic but we can complain or simply get on with it. From http://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=84729
Go to vst connections (F4), and make a mono bus, do not connect it to your sound card, and name it something you can remember. Now take your stereo track and select it's Output to that mono bus. Now you can do a Render In Place on that track, and it will be rendered as a mono track. Reassign the output bus back, afterwards. Sounds cumbersome but it's really fast, once you have tried it a few times.
Go to vst connections (F4), and make a mono bus, do not connect it to your sound card, and name it something you can remember. Now take your stereo track and select it's Output to that mono bus. Now you can do a Render In Place on that track, and it will be rendered as a mono track. Reassign the output bus back, afterwards. Sounds cumbersome but it's really fast, once you have tried it a few times.
TheoM wrote:One thing i really hate about cubase is there is no way to to use a mono to stereo vst like a verb and make a mono sound stereo, or even bx stereomaker.. it's so incredibly stupid.
Am i missing something? In logic if i want to turn a sound to mono i actually have specific mono to stereo au's and you can see the meter is mono and the moment you insert that mono to stereo effect it changes to stereo.. what's up with that in cubase?
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Cubase has a mono to stereo plugin and a stereo enhancer... both having a mono button. I use this sometimes to make a sound to mono and use a stereo delay or other stereo effects on this.
The "stereo combined panner" can be used to make the output to mono (default is the "balance panner"; this can be switched with the right click context menu on the small panner window in the channel).
This panner mode is also useful to decrease the stereo wide of a sound without using some m/s tools.
The "stereo combined panner" can be used to make the output to mono (default is the "balance panner"; this can be switched with the right click context menu on the small panner window in the channel).
This panner mode is also useful to decrease the stereo wide of a sound without using some m/s tools.
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It only started on page 6 or so. And it's only one single person really. It's sighable, but that's always how it is in Steinberg threads.SJ_Digriz wrote:lol, I guess I don't have the patience to get past those first few idiotic pages to figure out of someone actually makes a valid comparison at some point.TheoM wrote:SJ_Digriz wrote:I don't know, there was 3 pages of Steinberg is price gouging on the top hit from my search.TheoM wrote:That's funny i just read the first page and it's all about pdc and useful info.
What thread you reading?
out of 84 pages that's not bad
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- 3220 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
Well then... it would help if I could read! Try this....
Go to the media pool. Select the file in question, right click, convert it to a stereo file and drag it from the media pool to where you want it in the project.
From https://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewto ... 58#p434758
Go to the media pool. Select the file in question, right click, convert it to a stereo file and drag it from the media pool to where you want it in the project.
From https://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewto ... 58#p434758
TheoM wrote:Scotty that sounds like stereo to mono to me.
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It is interesting queery. This comes up from Logic users on the Steinberg Forums from time to time and typical Cubase users don't seem to miss the functionality. What are the perceived advantages in terms of production.. in other words where / when would you use this feature if it were readily available in Cubase without the work arounds?
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it's usually going the other way though, trying to do mono checks on stereo outs. The Control Room has a mono switch for that purpose if you have one of the upper versions of Cubase.
But, for inline work from mono to stereo the easiest way is to put a mono source on a stereo out audio track. If you want to preserve the mono out, use a send. It isn't as convenient as Logic, but it is the more technically correct thing to do with a mono source.
But, for inline work from mono to stereo the easiest way is to put a mono source on a stereo out audio track. If you want to preserve the mono out, use a send. It isn't as convenient as Logic, but it is the more technically correct thing to do with a mono source.
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- 6272 posts since 25 Mar, 2004
Upgraded over the weekend. As usual, there are a few new things that take a bit of getting used to, but overall, I like the new feel.
Two things that really make it worthwhile for me:
1) Ctrl for disabling the auto quantize. Love this. Huge time saver for me.
2) Retrologue 2. I'm not a programmer, so I don't really get into the nitty-gritty about improvements to this filter or that oscillator. I just make my way through the presets, auditioning and making notes about what I might find useful. As it happens, I discovered enough raw material that would allow me to bump out tracks using Retrologue 2 almost exclusively. Keys, pads, basses, arp instruments, leads--something from just about every category. I might be benching some of my other synths indefinitely as a result.
Cheers
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Two things that really make it worthwhile for me:
1) Ctrl for disabling the auto quantize. Love this. Huge time saver for me.
2) Retrologue 2. I'm not a programmer, so I don't really get into the nitty-gritty about improvements to this filter or that oscillator. I just make my way through the presets, auditioning and making notes about what I might find useful. As it happens, I discovered enough raw material that would allow me to bump out tracks using Retrologue 2 almost exclusively. Keys, pads, basses, arp instruments, leads--something from just about every category. I might be benching some of my other synths indefinitely as a result.
Cheers
-B
Berfab
So many plugins, so little time...
So many plugins, so little time...
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- KVRAF
- 2990 posts since 13 Apr, 2008 from Charleston, SC
I just want to chime in and say that Steinberg appears to be listening now more than ever. They are claiming to be working on things that irritate us as well as fix some majorly "broken" things. There is no real way to tell if they will actually do this except time, and maybe a 8.6 update in the spring (because that is literally what it would take...a major point release, to justify several things mentioned).
Here's to hoping...
Here's to hoping...
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- KVRian
- 1125 posts since 29 Sep, 2013
There is no way this hasn't been mentioned, and no, I didn't read 22 pages...but I'm ready to snap.
I just spent a couple of hours salvaging a project with the group channels going silent bug. I had to remove all automation, copy effects and their settings to each track, and a lot more. You can't just delete the group tracks- you have to go in to channel settings for each track and route them to the master, then close channel settings, repeat. Only then can you delete the group tracks. Basically, I'm starting the mix again, almost from scratch, and I can't count on automation working, certainly not for group or VCA tracks. I don't even know what to do from here. I can't work without automation.
Would I be out of line for calling them fascists for moderating their forum so tightly that you can't shame them into fixing something so huge?
I just spent a couple of hours salvaging a project with the group channels going silent bug. I had to remove all automation, copy effects and their settings to each track, and a lot more. You can't just delete the group tracks- you have to go in to channel settings for each track and route them to the master, then close channel settings, repeat. Only then can you delete the group tracks. Basically, I'm starting the mix again, almost from scratch, and I can't count on automation working, certainly not for group or VCA tracks. I don't even know what to do from here. I can't work without automation.
Would I be out of line for calling them fascists for moderating their forum so tightly that you can't shame them into fixing something so huge?
In rotation here: Helios- Eingya
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- 7097 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
What about any project backups or versions of some kind - did you do anything to revert to?rustman wrote:I don't even know what to do from here. I can't work without automation.
Would I be out of line for calling them fascists for moderating their forum so tightly that you can't shame them into fixing something so huge?
Whatever new takes etc could be imported to the new version.
Thinking going silent may be that automation wrongly go to zero.
I think Cubase is only daw I saw having a function to remove all automation in project - a workaround maybe for a known bug where it gets screwed up in the process of a project, so people can startover quickly.
I just reported a bug that f**ks up automation saving and importing track archives regarding automation. It depends on if the archive is made from random tracks when created and seems that automation does loose track of which track it belongs to - just my own guess, since looking at automation lanes I get doubles of some and a dialog popping up saying to remove tracks it could not connect. Creating an archive where the archived tracks are are the only ones - it works fine importing to another project.
So, don't knowing the history of your project - if there is something of importing and moving tracks between projects?
And automation can consist of automation+trim envelope as well - did you freeze automation to both trim and automation become a new automation?
So when trim going nuts cancelling out all automation can also be a screwup - and making a track silent. Don't know which freeze mode you set for automation regarding this - but I turned that to manual so I am in control, not that it as default freeze immediately into one automation curve. So you always get two curves when trimming - one trim curve and automation curve and can choose when you freeze into one.
If like default you freeze immediately this would probably mean thousands of freezing automation during the mixing process. Doing manually when you are done - could reduce the risk is my thinking.