Korg updates its Legacy Collection with a new Arp Odyssey emulation

[ATN69]

I just checked here from Hong Kong and it's up,

https://korg.shop/

http://www.korguser.net/

The Korg site itself is not the problem, it's their shop backend that is borked - probably more a Magento issue

Yeah, I learned that earlier. Someone said the site was down so when I checked I didn't find it was down but up and running. I wasn't aware about the error messages people encountered. I guess I am one of the lucky few because I already made the move from the old site to the new and it worked that time.

[zerocrossing]

Yes, new (and larger) interfaces are coming, but they are not available yet.

Good news, the WS and MS20 in particular could do with some interface updating...

For sure. The analog emulations could all use some love in the modeling deptartment as well. Check out the slope of the PolySix filter.

[zerocrossing]

Doesn't the asians work 24/7 anymore? Are we germans the leftovers then?

Do germans work 24/7? Where, in Nowhere Land?

Once we had clients from Germany come to work with us on a project. At about 3:00 they were all, “OK, well we’re out of here. What are you going to do?” The answer was, “Work on your project so we make the deadline.” They looked at us like we were crazy and left.

[Teksonik]

Just a note to confirm the installer does not allow custom install location here on Win 7 or Win 10. Has to be a bug since it wouldn't make sense to allow entering a custom location but having the installer ignore that choice. Has anyone filed a bug report with Korg ? I'll try to find a contact form or method to report bugs.

Off topic but Polysix is part of the collection.....I hadn't loaded it in years and in fact must have deleted it from my studio computer during a purge. So I installed it again and had a play. Next thing I knew an entire bank of patches had fallen out of it....great fun to create patches even though Polysix is quite limited in architecture:

Polysix Teksonik Bank 1

Anyway I'm going to hold off installing any of the other individual plugins until the installer is fixed.

[aMUSEd]

I just checked here from Hong Kong and it's up,

https://korg.shop/

http://www.korguser.net/

The Korg site itself is not the problem, it's their shop backend that is borked - probably more a Magento issue

Yeah, I learned that earlier. Someone said the site was down so when I checked I didn't find it was down but up and running. I wasn't aware about the error messages people encountered. I guess I am one of the lucky few because I already made the move from the old site to the new and it worked that time.

Me too - made the migration and got the new installers before this started but then when I decided to buy the upgrade to the version with the ARP is when I hit the shop problem.

[zvenx]

I could be wrong, but doesn't the installer ask where to put the Apps/Programs that is standalone versions rather than the vst versions?
What I am thinking....I think the standalone versions need the 32bit vst in the same folder which is why it installs them in that location rather than a vst location....
hopefully that makes sense
rsp

[ATN69]

I just checked here from Hong Kong and it's up,

https://korg.shop/

http://www.korguser.net/

The Korg site itself is not the problem, it's their shop backend that is borked - probably more a Magento issue

Yeah, I learned that earlier. Someone said the site was down so when I checked I didn't find it was down but up and running. I wasn't aware about the error messages people encountered. I guess I am one of the lucky few because I already made the move from the old site to the new and it worked that time.

Me too - made the migration and got the new installers before this started but then when I decided to buy the upgrade to the version with the ARP is when I hit the shop problem.

That's just sad. I managed to get the ARP as well. I never owned the real Odyssey so I can't say if it is a good or bad emulation, but I don't care too much about that. For me it sounds interesting enough and good enough. If I make a song using it, no listeners will say "ohh, thats a bad emulation of an Arp Odyssey"

[Jace-BeOS]

korguser.net will be shut down eventually. Do it before it's too late.

At least open the account and get the coupon codes and save them.

The links to product pages accepting those coupon codes are unique to the migration process. It's likely those products will not be accessible in future, when they think everyone has migrated.

[Jace-BeOS]

But it's good news that the M1 and Wavestation will get some love in the future since they are the only ones I ever use.

Indeed. Fortunately, Korg realized that there are users who don't give a shit to that Gadget nonsense, and just want proper instruments, done as they should be. Now, let's wait for the updates, and hopefully some news in this front (I have a few ideas )

"Done as they should be"... hmm... Do take note: the Arp Odyssey in this new "collection" is exactly the same as the iPad version. So whatever we get from Korg in the way of larger interfaces on the Collection is likely to be the iPad versions, not just scaled-up versions of the existing GUIs. Personally, i have no problem with that on the Wavestation, Mono/Poly, and the Odyssey, but there's no telling what we will get for MS-20. The iPad version is much different from the desktop version (aside from being monophonic, it's got a lot more functionality to it).

[Jace-BeOS]

Also, this 'migration' for the existing plugs .... is there some reason I should consider doing that now ? is that time limited some how ?

Because you don't want to be the guy coming back here in a few months saying his plugins no longer work/authorise, KorgUser.net is gone, there is no way to get upgrade coupons anymore and they want $250 from me to make my existing plugins work again!

It's going to happen to someone, don't let it be you..!

This is my thinking, exactly, except for this wrinkle: I'm not yet migrated to a Mac OS beyond Snow Leopard. The new Korg Collection requires 10.10.x or newer. So what happens if i need to reauthorize my legacy Legacy Collection on 10.6.8? The site says it will partially cease service. What does "partially" mean? I've submitted an inquiry to Korg, so maybe I'll get an answer.

[Jace-BeOS]

Also, this 'migration' for the existing plugs .... is there some reason I should consider doing that now ? is that time limited some how ?

Because you don't want to be the guy coming back here in a few months saying his plugins no longer work/authorise, KorgUser.net is gone, there is no way to get upgrade coupons anymore and they want $250 from me to make my existing plugins work again!

It's going to happen to someone, don't let it be you..!

I assume that the plugins authorized under the old system will not just cease to operate at some arbitrary point in time ? Only if you want to reinstall / reauthorize would it be an issue ?

Anyway I've got all my codes saved but I don't think I'll take the time to update the studio computer just yet. But does anyone know if these code will expire at some time ? If the codes are going to expire if you don't use them by some date then yes I guess I'll have to update even before there are more significant updates.

Didnt the old codes change each time they needed reauthorising, which was quite often for some people, if they updated their OS for example.
Under Windows 8 I was regularly having to reauthorise them and the code was always different.

Yes, I've had to reauthorize numerous times. The last occasion was when i migrated my MacBook Pro system drive to an iMac. It was a straight clone of the drive and everything worked fine, but i needed to re-authorize almost every third party plugin, including Korg's.

[Jace-BeOS]

Are they doing the migration of accounts in order to prevent the common resale of entire accounts on KVR and elsewhere, or is that still possible with the new system?

They're doing account migration because they have two very different and somewhat overlapping websites for their software and software support. It's confusing to have multiple accounts for Korg products. It's a reasonable thing that they move everything to one place.

As for selling accounts, i don't know. You should probably contact them at their support site to ask if this is acceptable, if you're interested.

[Jace-BeOS]

Sadly no more money for c/r plugins from me. Esp. when theres no offline auth anymore

So don't pay them more money. Still, why not protect the usage of your existing plugin purchase? Even though there's no offline registration in the new versions, you might change your mind in the future and not have access to the new installers because you didn't do this migration today.

[Teksonik]

I could be wrong, but doesn't the installer ask where to put the Apps/Programs that is standalone versions rather than the vst versions?
What I am thinking....I think the standalone versions need the 32bit vst in the same folder which is why it installs them in that location rather than a vst location....
hopefully that makes sense
rsp

On this system (win 10) the standalone ended up in the Program Files (x86) / Korg / Korg Legacy even though I pointed installer to C:64 Bit Plugins.

Let me try installing one of the other individual plugins and see what happens......back in a few.

EDIT: Ok just installed the MS20 and I think you're right. The installers asks where to put the "Legacy Collection" rather than the actual .dll so it would appear there is no option to select the plugin folder. So not a bug just an oversight ?

But choosing where you want the Collection files doesn't work as everything ends up in the original location listed in the address box and the .dll ends up in Program Files / Vst Plugins. So that would appear to be a bug.

[Jace-BeOS]

Years ago I bought the so called "Digital Legacy" collection. sometime later they upgraded the digital legacy users to the full legacy product for free, but only for some people that had purchased digital legacy after a certain date, which I was not one of them, and they provided no upgrade path for me to the full legacy, only the option to pay full price for individual plugins, which would add up to the same cost as buying legacy outright..in other words..no upgrade path at all for me... I asked them numerous times over the years to provide an upgrade path for me and they never would and never did. They eliminated the Digital Legacy product and many of hte digital legacy users got bumped up to full legacy for free...but me, I guess because I had bought it before a certain date...sorry charlie...no upgrade path at all...

Now, its the same, no upgrade path at all, just the option to pay full price for individual plugins which would add up to just as much as paying full price.

Sorry Korg.... will never pay full price. At this point especially I have acquired so many other great synth plugins... years ago I would have appreciated the Mono/Poly without question...but now...eh... if I had a reasonable upgrade path I might do it just to have it but they really abandoned me as a user before and continue to do so....so.... there it is..

I'm not sure what happened to you. Like you, i purchased the Legacy Collection, and then the Digital Collection when they were separate products. When they merged them, i updated to the newer installers and ran the registration/authorization through their support site (the one they're now trying to shut down). All my products are listed in the migration process. Perhaps you need to register your existing plugins on that site first and then try the migration.