give it a rest, son.ThomasHelzle wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:07 pm If you want to help us to understand the fantastic new concept of Rolinary and why anybody should trust them, go ahead, enlighten us.
ROLI's writing on the wall happened
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- KVRian
- 965 posts since 18 Jul, 2021
- addled muppet weed
- 111294 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
he didn't mention the company direction?
he talked about one product and a patch demonstration as part of a conversation.
i don't get the issue?
its not like he's an unknown user, posting in a competitors thread.
he talked about one product and a patch demonstration as part of a conversation.
i don't get the issue?
its not like he's an unknown user, posting in a competitors thread.
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- KVRAF
- 2066 posts since 13 Dec, 2016
All good, I didn´t know you are working for Roli, so this makes sense now. Thanks for the info, its good to have you herehimalaya wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:41 pmIt's not intended as such. It's additional information to what Echoes in the Attick mentioned about Equator2. So it's supplementary information about a ROLI product in a ROLI thread. Is this a very controversial thing?![]()
I really like Equator 2, it sounds very cinematic which is one of my main territories.
Its over for Bitwig--CUBASE WON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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- KVRAF
- 5666 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium
Thank you. I really appreciate your post.enCiphered wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:23 pmAll good, I didn´t know you are working for Roli, so this makes sense now. Thanks for the info, its good to have you herehimalaya wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:41 pmIt's not intended as such. It's additional information to what Echoes in the Attick mentioned about Equator2. So it's supplementary information about a ROLI product in a ROLI thread. Is this a very controversial thing?![]()
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I really like Equator 2, it sounds very cinematic which is one of my main territories.
Also, glad that you like the cinematic scope of sound in E2. There's more stuff to come on this theme!
- Banned
- 559 posts since 9 Sep, 2019
The company had it all: money, product concept and skilful people (brilliant, I must say)ThomasHelzle wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:07 pm Yeah, like we all misunderstood what Roli is doing here, gilding a turd.
And how long a life that poor little misunderstood synth will probably have with this "new" company.
If you want to help us to understand the fantastic new concept of Rolinary and why anybody should trust them, go ahead, enlighten us.
Cheers,
Tom
It just was managed poorly and with overly puffed goals. That is all. "Too many chiefs, quite a few indians."
The grid instruments (Seaboard) are somehow decent, the Block and Lumi are a joke. Or shall I say, just toys.
So far only EigenHarp Alpha (by EigenLabs) managed to do great features, but they overdid it. Way, way too complicated and the form factor is not for everyone, certainly not for keyboard players.
Osmose might be getting close, but I know that it is not going to be implemented as it should be.
Sad to see Roli has been renamed and filed for administration, but that was expected to happen. I was surprised to see they got a second financial investment of 17M. This 'bad management fiasco' should have stopped before that, but... money is money. No one is immune against it until proven the contrary.
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- KVRAF
- 4584 posts since 21 Sep, 2005
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- KVRAF
- 6780 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
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- Banned
- 2524 posts since 4 Jul, 2019
very good idea - not just so one can see if a post is independent but also gives an idea of the knowledge base of the posterimrae wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:11 pm I would prefer for company affiliations to be clearly shown. Maybe there could be badges or something?
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- KVRAF
- 5666 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium
Shill posts? I made a post in reply to another poster, outlining a feature set of a ROLI plugin in a ROLI thread and provided an audio example of one of the features. I did not expound its virtues above other plugins or some such. Where is the shill post here? What is so distestful? --Sigh-- please be more balanced in what you write.Ploki wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:41 am
Im not finding himalaya’s shill posts tasteful, but thats just me. I wont hold it against him since i kind of understand it - but still.
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- KVRAF
- 6780 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
sorry but some of your answers appeared overly protective of them and i just don't find it tasteful.himalaya wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:46 pm
Shill posts? I made a post in reply to another poster, outlining a feature set of a ROLI plugin in a ROLI thread and provided an audio example of one of the features. I did not expound its virtues above other plugins or some such. Where is the shill post here? What is so distestful? --Sigh-- please be more balanced in what you write.
i did say i don't hold it against you, but ROLI is a shit-show currently and i think your posts lack objectivity in that regard.
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- KVRAF
- 5666 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium
What are you on about? What posts of mine are protective of ROLI? You seem to be very confused.Ploki wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:49 pmsorry but some of your answers appeared overly protective of them and i just don't find it tasteful.himalaya wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:46 pm
Shill posts? I made a post in reply to another poster, outlining a feature set of a ROLI plugin in a ROLI thread and provided an audio example of one of the features. I did not expound its virtues above other plugins or some such. Where is the shill post here? What is so distestful? --Sigh-- please be more balanced in what you write.
i did say i don't hold it against you, but ROLI is a shit-show currently and i think your posts lack objectivity in that regard.
My friend, for the umpteenth time, I posted in this thread with a feature set of Equator2, to follow on from a post made by another poster who also listed a feature of Equator2. My post was meant as an informative post to show the fuller feature set of Equator2. How are you misconstruing it in the way you are, is beyond me.
This whole thread is full of outlandish posts against ROLI, there's lots of speculation, opinions and venting. Not once did I refer to these or posted in defence of ROLI. Your stance is mistaken and misleading. Please stop misconstruing it all. If you feel dislike towards ROLI, please continue to voice it, but I am not part of it so please don't twist my only post (about anything to do with ROLI) in this tread. Thank you.
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- KVRAF
- 6780 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
- addled muppet weed
- 111294 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
yup was nothing more than explaining the specific details of the update mentioned in the previous post.
definitely not shilling in any way.
definitely not shilling in any way.
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- KVRAF
- 5666 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium
Hey, I appreciate that. Thank you.Ploki wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:10 pm Genuinely sorry then, must have misinterpreted or remembered wrongly. My bad.
It’s also very likely my sour experience with roli (been a customer since 2015) that taints any affiliation i see with them.
So I apologise
And I'm genuinely sorry to hear that you had a bad experience with ROLI. I wish that wasn't so. I wish you had a great experience, but there it is...and you are free to voice your criticism. I'm not here to defend ROLI or any other company. Remember, I'm also a user (more like total synth nerd), so I can empathise when things go wrong with products or customer service, or anything else related to audio/music production.
