DrivenByMoss: Bitwig extension for many hardware controllers (version 26.6.1)

[moss]

Hi Jürgen, thanks for all your generous controller surface work!
If you are ever contemplating about adding a drum mode like the new Richie Hawtin Fire script: I think it's nearly possible to use your "poly note sequencer mode" like this for drums. But at the moment adding single notes to one step erases the existing ones. I like the context of the active drum events next to selected edited line... Much easier on my brain.

Yes, it is considered.

[xtreme sounds]

HI sir

I have been playing with hawtins script on the akai fire. I wanted to share my thoughts as I know you are thinking of doing something in the future. I think its strength is the ability to do the following: lay down patterns quickly and selected between them, also the copy and delete feature is really good not only patterns but if you press a pad representing a part of the kit, you can clear all steps for that sound instantly . also the execution of applying send effects. I would just say if there was a way to combine the whole thing into yours, then this would be golden.

Some things I dont care for is that all the pads are the same color even when doing things like copying and pasting. So its not so intuitive. Some of the knob controls dont work like expected. for example touch resetting a send fx knob goes to 0 when what we really want is for it to go to negative infinity. Some of the other knob options dont seem all that useful in this context. Maybe others feel differently though. Repeats yes, probability yes, Pin - not sure what is does exactly. It doesnt work like I would expect it to anyway. I think its supposed to keep playing the pinned clip while you can move to another pattern to edit it. I dont see it happening though.

[BoogerSnot]

First off, thanks for the extension! It is appreciated.

Second, for the Akai Fire, is there any way to have the Session mode run horizontal, so that scenes ran along the top from left to right with the clips below it?

Doesn't appear to be, at least that I can find.

Seems like it would be a good option to have, as it mirrors the way Bitwig is set up. Yes, you would limit it to 3 tracks on the device at once, but you'd also have more scenes per track which is what I was hoping for.

[BoogerSnot]

Also, small bug for the Akai Fire: When you close Bitwig it doesn't completely shut down the device like when you use it with FL Studio, as the "Channel" light remains on.

[moss]

Also, small bug for the Akai Fire: When you close Bitwig it doesn't completely shut down the device like when you use it with FL Studio, as the "Channel" light remains on.

Noted.

[matthieu87]

Hi Jürgen,

Thanks for your amazing work that's helping so many people !

I'm using an APC 40 MII for a year now and it's so cool.

I have a few questions about it. I Hope they have not already being asked and answered (I've searched but did'nt find anythings).

- Do you thing that would be possible to add fine tuning fonction on the knobs with the shift fonction ? That would be amazing.
- Is it possible to have a Visual of the value that is being changed for Device parametre ?
( Like the pans and sends do in bottom of Bitwig screen or directly on the screen like for exemple the change of the scale appear ?).
- In the drum rack :
*it seems to be possible when you hold "Bank" an pad of the drum rack to open the browser and load something in this specific cell, but once it's done it's impossible to do it for the others cells.
Or in a very random Way.. Do you think it could be possible ?
*Is it possible to use the select bouton of the track and a pad to select a cell ?

Last thing, I try to assign the user knobs like you say in the manuel with the Devices knobs but don't manage to do it..

Thanks you for reading that and also for all the work you do and have already done !

Best,


EDIT : In fact it is possible to load différents cells in the drum rack by holding "Bank" and a pad but you have select an other track and comme back to the drum track between each loads .

[moss]

- Do you thing that would be possible to add fine tuning fonction on the knobs with the shift fonction ? That would be amazing.

That's normally the case but the knobs behave like absolute ones (not relative), so sadly no.

- Is it possible to have a Visual of the value that is being changed for Device parametre ?
( Like the pans and sends do in bottom of Bitwig screen or directly on the screen like for exemple the change of the scale appear ?).

That was a Bitwig bug which got fixed in 4.3.1.

- In the drum rack :
*it seems to be possible when you hold "Bank" an pad of the drum rack to open the browser and load something in this specific cell, but once it's done it's impossible to do it for the others cells.
Or in a very random Way.. Do you think it could be possible ?
*Is it possible to use the select bouton of the track and a pad to select a cell ?

That's a Bitwig bug.

Last thing, I try to assign the user knobs like you say in the manuel with the Devices knobs but don't manage to do it..

Select the User mode, right click on the parameter you want to control in Bitwig, select MIDI learn, turn the knob.

[matthieu87]

Thanks man !

[personnealienee]

Dear Jürgen,

thanks for developing the DrivenByMoss script, it has been tremendously useful my music production.

I have an Ableton Push 2 and I am using it with Bitwig Studio 3.3.1, and I have been recently thinking about ways to organize my set up for live performance. The Session View on Push of course is very hands on and useful to quickly launch and stop clips, but one often wants to map controls to some not easily accessible parameters to avoid menu diving. One thing that occurred to me that it would be useful to have Session View occupy not the full 8x8 grid of pads but rather have a setting where it could occupy N x 8 or 8 x N grid, with N specified by the user, so that the free pads could be mapped (for that one can simply use midi learn functionality of Bitwig) to something. Unfortunately, I was unable to find such a setting in your script. Did I miss it, and if not, would it be possible to add such a feature in the future versions of the script?

[moss]

Dear Jürgen,

thanks for developing the DrivenByMoss script, it has been tremendously useful my music production.

I have an Ableton Push 2 and I am using it with Bitwig Studio 3.3.1, and I have been recently thinking about ways to organize my set up for live performance. The Session View on Push of course is very hands on and useful to quickly launch and stop clips, but one often wants to map controls to some not easily accessible parameters to avoid menu diving. One thing that occurred to me that it would be useful to have Session View occupy not the full 8x8 grid of pads but rather have a setting where it could occupy N x 8 or 8 x N grid, with N specified by the user, so that the free pads could be mapped (for that one can simply use midi learn functionality of Bitwig) to something. Unfortunately, I was unable to find such a setting in your script. Did I miss it, and if not, would it be possible to add such a feature in the future versions of the script?

I was thinking about this in the past but decided against it since there are just too many possibilities.
What you can always do is map something to a button or knob with Bitwig MIDI learn but then this button/knob will not be available in any of the modes.
Instead I suggest to get a 2nd controller for such tasks. Doesn't have to be any fancy e.g. a Launchpad Mini or something 2nd hand.

[matthieu87]

Hi Jürgen,

Few more questions about the APC M2:
In the Drum sequencer:

- it there a way to scroll down in the loop length section ? maybe with a shift + arrow fonction and maybe add different color for the first bar to see the debut of loop clearly ?
Since this mode has just two line for sequencing,depending on the grid resolution or loop length, a part of the loop sometime is just not accessible. That would make drum sequencing easier on the apc

- is it possible integrate the 4 lines drum’s mode, with the last line for loop length ?
( and same scrolling if possible) accessible like for the bird eye view in session mode

- Is it possible to use the middle scene button to mute Pad of the drum rack ?

- Is it possible to use the device knobs like the pan’s knobs to edit others note settings like operators, chance ect ..?

In play mode :

Is it possible to intergrate the chord mode ?



In general :

Is it possible to use shift tap tempo to add a marker and shift nudge - and + to navigate between markers like on the push ?

is it possible to have the shift lock page in the opening’s view choise ?

Thanks for your time !

[moss]

Few more questions about the APC M2:
In general :

Thanks, some good ideas in there. Might look into some of them.

is it possible to have the shift lock page in the opening’s view choise ?

Didn't understand that one. Can you elaborate?

[matthieu87]

Sorry bad english
recently, you add a fonction in the setting to be able to choose the default mode when the apc turns on ( drum - play - sequencer session.. ) Is it possible to add the shift view as well ( with add tracks fonction / insert effects/ undo - redo / piano roll to select root note) ?
Hope it’s understadable

[moss]

Sorry bad english
recently, you add a fonction in the setting to be able to choose the default mode when the apc turns on ( drum - play - sequencer session.. ) Is it possible to add the shift view as well ( with add tracks fonction / insert effects/ undo - redo / piano roll to select root note) ?
Hope it’s understadable

Ah, OK. Don't think that this will happen since it is a temporary mode.

[jaaypeso24]

Hi Moss,

Would it be possible in the future to use the up/down arrow buttons on the right of the Push 2 to change the Mode (major/minor, mixolydian,etc.) in "Scale" mode on the Push 2? I ask this knowing that there are up/down buttons that change the mode above and below the screen on the left, but they are hard to access if your playing keys on the push in real time like I tend to do, and if the buttons to change modes was on the right I could do it more smoothly while playing with my right hand while I hold the a chord with my left. Currently, when i'm in "scale" mode (the screen with the key's and modes listed) which is virtually all the time, the up/down buttons don't serve any other function to my knowledge and are deactivated. This is my humble dream, but I would literally pay for this feature (i'm not kidding)


This is the default behavior in Ableton when in "Scale" mode where the up/down arrow near the right (it is the up/down/left/right arrows in a square basically) changes the "mode" in Scale mode. Basically what the button above and below the screen are set to do now. I would even be willing to go so far as to customize my own version of the script if I could get a few tip as to how so I could change any future versions as well.

Thanks for even considering as always.