Roland Cloud

[D-Fusion]

You're Welcome SLiC and WatchTheGuitar
Happy to be able to help

[gunark]

It’s on the product selector now if you have any spare lifetime credits.

[PAK]

It’s on the product selector now if you have any spare lifetime credits.

Thanks for the update. Most affordable way to get it then, outside of the $500 bundle

[fmr]

I was really hoping for a JP8000/8080

If a want a Jupiter 4, I'll buy the Cherry Audio version for one fifth of the price Roland is asking. The Roland version is probably 'better' but I'm sure not 5 times better

I wonder what's so great about the JP8000/8080?

You can create these sounds with any VSTi with subtractive synthesis incl. supersaw.

That exact statement can be said about _ANY_ of the roland cloud synths.....
whats so special about the jp8k, well, how about The Way it Sounds
theres a reason its a sought after synth. And why people like Szabo wanted to recreate it, and the fact that many people want one in SW format. And its the sound, not its synthesis capabilites.
Combination of its filters with the way their sawtooths sound i guess; not sure, but it has a Sound wont you agree. Just like any synth

Adam Szabo is selling it at $25. At that price, I guess anyone chasing that synth can be satisfied. But if Roland would make it and sell it at $199, that would be joke. If it's the "sound" you are looking for and not the synthesis capabilities, than a sample pack would be enough for you. The JP-8000 has nothing that justifies wasting time and resources with it, IMO. Especially when you have things like the V-Synth, the Jupiter-6, the JX-8P/JX-10 or the JD-800/JD-990 still out of it.

[D-Fusion]

I was really hoping for a JP8000/8080

If a want a Jupiter 4, I'll buy the Cherry Audio version for one fifth of the price Roland is asking. The Roland version is probably 'better' but I'm sure not 5 times better

I wonder what's so great about the JP8000/8080?

You can create these sounds with any VSTi with subtractive synthesis incl. supersaw.

That exact statement can be said about _ANY_ of the roland cloud synths.....
whats so special about the jp8k, well, how about The Way it Sounds
theres a reason its a sought after synth. And why people like Szabo wanted to recreate it, and the fact that many people want one in SW format. And its the sound, not its synthesis capabilites.
Combination of its filters with the way their sawtooths sound i guess; not sure, but it has a Sound wont you agree. Just like any synth

Adam Szabo is selling it at $25. At that price, I guess anyone chasing that synth can be satisfied. But if Roland would make it and sell it at $199, that would be joke. If it's the "sound" you are looking for and not the synthesis capabilities, than a sample pack would be enough for you. The JP-8000 has nothing that justifies wasting time and resources with it, IMO. Especially when you have things like the V-Synth, the Jupiter-6, the JX-8P/JX-10 or the JD-800/JD-990 still out of it.

V-Synth = Nothing special and you can get in the same Ballpark with Zenology Pro which offers more, Jupiter 6 = Nothing Special, JX8P/JX-10 Limited and Boring, JD 800 already here if it is the Sample/Sounds you are looking for.

[fmr]

V-Synth = Nothing special and you can get in the same Ballpark with Zenology Pro which offers more

Clearly you don't know the V-Synth. Take a read, and then compare it with the Zenology: https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/roland-v-synth

Jupiter 6 = Nothing Special,

This just deserves a big

JX8P/JX-10 Limited and Boring,

And another big

JD 800 already here if it is the Sample/Sounds you are looking for.

So, the samples from the JD800 are good enough, but the samples of a limited, primitive, under- featured VA are not? And the Jupiter-6 is nothing special, the JX-8P is limited and boring, but a primitive, limited and under-featured VA isn't?

[beely]

I love the JX8P/JX10, it has a very distinct character from other analog and VA synths. Whether we'll get an ACB version of that, now there's a ZenCore version, I'm not sure.

I'm not a fan of the JP6 at all, I don't like it's character and for me it has a very small sweet spot (unison mode sounds good though). I think generally, you're either a JP6 or a JP8 guy, seldom both, as while they overlap a little, the JP8 is a smoother, classier more refined sound (which I prefer), and the JP6 is a little more brash and aggressive when pushed.

I think both of those should be modelled in their legendary collection for sure (although I'd actually prefer the MKS80 over the Jupiter 6, but that's not as appealing as a product for marketing reasons).

I don't have any experience with the V-Synth, although I know quite a few people love it and it's quite deep.

As for the JP-8000/8080 - I sort of agree with some of the comments above - it does have a character and some people really like it, but my guess is that if they made it as a plugin (which they probably will at some point), a lot of the comments would probably be like "Don't know why they bothered, nothing special, sounds like a cheap generic V/A synth to me" etc...

[fmr]

I don't have any experience with the V-Synth, although I know quite a few people love it and it's quite deep.

I own a V-Synth XT. It's MUCH DEEPER than Zenology, I can asure you. I am not talking about the "models" that run in Zen Core, as those are "extensions", and treated as that. I'm talking about the Zenology Pro as it comes. But even with them, I would still prefer a V-Synth over that (besides, who needs a a model of a Jupiter-8, another of the Juno-106 and another of the SH-101, when you have all of them as ACB? ). They even released the JD-800 as standalone instrument .

[Examigan]

It would definitely be nice to have a hardware V-Synth. I checked online to see prices and they are around $1,800-$2,000. It would be great if Roland could reproduce that beast in software form.

[OrionAlpha101]

I hope for a V-Synth in the future and for the System 100m.

[ozinga]

It’s on the product selector now if you have any spare lifetime credits.

Good thing you can change the life time key products anytime. I just changed one I do not use much with Jupiter 4.

[astralprojection]

I was really hoping for a JP8000/8080

If a want a Jupiter 4, I'll buy the Cherry Audio version for one fifth of the price Roland is asking. The Roland version is probably 'better' but I'm sure not 5 times better

I wonder what's so great about the JP8000/8080?

You can create these sounds with any VSTi with subtractive synthesis incl. supersaw.

That exact statement can be said about _ANY_ of the roland cloud synths.....
whats so special about the jp8k, well, how about The Way it Sounds
theres a reason its a sought after synth. And why people like Szabo wanted to recreate it, and the fact that many people want one in SW format. And its the sound, not its synthesis capabilites.
Combination of its filters with the way their sawtooths sound i guess; not sure, but it has a Sound wont you agree. Just like any synth

Adam Szabo is selling it at $25. At that price, I guess anyone chasing that synth can be satisfied. But if Roland would make it and sell it at $199, that would be joke. If it's the "sound" you are looking for and not the synthesis capabilities, than a sample pack would be enough for you. The JP-8000 has nothing that justifies wasting time and resources with it, IMO. Especially when you have things like the V-Synth, the Jupiter-6, the JX-8P/JX-10 or the JD-800/JD-990 still out of it.

You can recreate most sounds in most synths, maybe jd-800 would be hard to recreate considering it uses PCMs as source. Im unfamiliar with V-synth though.
I feel youre just arguing for the sake of arguing. I like the sound of JP8k, and I would love for roland to put that out. If you dont, thats fine. But your argument for why not, can be used for mosts of them.
so agree to disagree then
I do agree about their pricing, its waay off! And the fact that they release same things in different packages :/

As for the JP-8000/8080 - I sort of agree with some of the comments above - it does have a character and some people really like it, but my guess is that if they made it as a plugin (which they probably will at some point), a lot of the comments would probably be like "Don't know why they bothered, nothing special, sounds like a cheap generic V/A synth to me" etc...

so its up to roland to wow us with it

[SLiC]

I agree, the Roland stuff doesn’t look or sound any better than a lot of alternatives by other developers for a fraction of the cost…the simple fact is they just dont any better than any other VA synths.

[PAK]

Like the 303 the JP-8000 helped define a genre (trance), so it carries an outsized influence beyond its synth capabilities. Purely from a commercial marketing standpoint it'd make sense to do as it widens the "Legendary" series audience to those more influenced by late 90's / early 00's music, and helps bring in some of those nostalgia dollars.

The JP-8000 also makes sense if they're gonna do the VSynth as, afaik, its VA section shares some code. So it should also help contribute towards the goal of a VSynth plugin!

[fmr]

The JP-8000 also makes sense if they're gonna do the VSynth as, afaik, its VA section shares some code. So it should also help contribute towards the goal of a VSynth plugin!

I doubt they will ever release a V-Synth. They have not shown enough guts to accomplish such a task since Roland took over the Cloud. Unfortunately