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Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:26 am

Echoes in the Attic wrote:Ok, so going back to duophonic mode, I'm not sure I'm seeing any difference from mono. It doesn't seem like duophonic mode that I am familiar with (like on the oddysey/oddity).

When I hit two keys at the same time, I'm still just hearing one note. What am I doing wrong?

Modules with an odd number (Osc1, Osc3, VCF1 ...) play the lowest note pressed
Modules with an even number (Osc2, FMO4 ...) play the highest note pressed

Urs

MitchK1989 · Post by **MitchK1989** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:21 pm

Urs wrote:
Echoes in the Attic wrote:Ok, so going back to duophonic mode, I'm not sure I'm seeing any difference from mono. It doesn't seem like duophonic mode that I am familiar with (like on the oddysey/oddity).

When I hit two keys at the same time, I'm still just hearing one note. What am I doing wrong?
Modules with an odd number (Osc1, Osc3, VCF1 ...) play the lowest note pressed
Modules with an even number (Osc2, FMO4 ...) play the highest note pressed

Urs

woah what?

I didn't even realize that you could do that with the FMOs... That opens the door to a lot of carnage.

I've been holding off upgrading to 2.5 until its out of beta, but this might just tempt me...

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:55 pm

hakey wrote:
Echoes in the Attic wrote:Ok, so going back to duophonic mode, I'm not sure I'm seeing any difference from mono. It doesn't seem like duophonic mode that I am familiar with (like on the oddysey/oddity).

When I hit two keys at the same time, I'm still just hearing one note. What am I doing wrong?
That would happen if you only have one Osc in the Voice Grid - you need two OSC's for duophonic mode to work.

Ah, I didn't realize this, thanks. I thought duophonic mode could work on one osc. I thought it was that with the oddity (perhaps I'm wrong)... So yeah I was probably just using one osc.

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:09 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote: I thought duophonic mode could work on one osc. I thought it was that with the oddity (perhaps I'm wrong)... So yeah I was probably just using one osc.

I think the Oddity is a fairly straight emulation of an Odyssey and duophonic mode on a real Ody uses both oscillators (I can say that with a fair degree of certainty as I used to have one myself

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MitchK1989 · Post by **MitchK1989** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:45 pm

yeah, oddity has a lot of cool tricks involving oscillators FMing or ring modding each other in duo mode, and now zebra has those too.

beeswaks · Post by **beeswaks** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:36 am

Hi...

The "Pitch Detector" parameters in Zebrify aren't showing up in list of parameters/automation... Perhaps they should?

xx JPRacer xx · Post by **xx JPRacer xx** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:03 am

I don't really understand duophonic mode. From what I've read all the odd numbered modules play low key and the even modules the high key.

So is it like making a keyboard split and playing 2 different instruments but with just one instance of Zebra or I'm missing something?

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:38 am

xx JPRacer xx wrote:I don't really understand duophonic mode...or I'm missing something?

Yes, you're missing something, JPR. Just try it

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:53 am

Howard wrote:
ZenPunkHippy wrote:Once you figure it out, Duophonic mode is teh awesome!
Yep, especially "teh awesome" when you play mono.

Eh?

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:22 pm

hakey wrote:
Howard wrote:Yep, especially "teh awesome" when you play mono.
Eh?

You're missing something too, Hakey. Just try it

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:48 pm

Howard wrote:
hakey wrote:
Howard wrote:Yep, especially "teh awesome" when you play mono.
Eh?
You're missing something too, Hakey. Just try it

I have tried it and I'm still missing something.

It's the duophonic/mono thing that I can't get my head around. To me "play mono" means playing just one key at a time, which, I think, would give the same result in duophonic, retrigger or poly mode?

Are you perhaps talking about playing mono/legato style (overlapping keys) in duophonic mode with glide (1&2)?

mkastrup · Post by **mkastrup** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:44 pm

It may be working this way:

Normal way is FMO1 modulate FMO2 with the same keynote eg you press C3

In duo you can modulate 2 seperate tones, one being lowest (FMO1) and one being high (FMO2)

So without having tried it i would think you could hold down lets say c3 and various lower notes, which are equal to altering the FMO1 Tune and thus create modulation you normally would only do by using TUNE.

I'm going to try this now

mkastrup · Post by **mkastrup** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:58 pm

Try this patch:

http://www.synthtronic.com/demos/_Duo_Princip.zip

/Michael

porfiry · Post by **porfiry** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:12 pm

Wow, that really is awesome. It's easy to get something going with two OSCs that's kind of like a church organ...the left hand playing a lower, quiet sine note and the right hand busting a higher reedy lead. The odd/even thing is pretty wild. Can't wait to see what kind of stupidity arises with some FMing.

ZenPunkHippy · Post by **ZenPunkHippy** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:17 pm

Howard wrote:
hakey wrote:
Howard wrote:Yep, especially "teh awesome" when you play mono.
Eh?
You're missing something too, Hakey. Just try it

Thanks for the great tip. "Play Mono" had me confused for a minute too, but if you are playing two note chords with a bit of Glide 2 that's instant Rick Wakeman

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