KVR Audio

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:39 pm

fisherKing wrote:
wagtunes wrote:Question, is it just me or is the volume on this synth very low? There's no main volume control that I can find and the volume of a pure osc registers like -20 db.
"Master", left side...

Thank you. Again, I just can't find things on this synth. It all blurs together for me. Yes, 58 year old eyes don't help but I don't have this problem with any other synth I own, even the most complex of them. Zebra 2 doesn't give me this much trouble.

All I'm asking for is a cleaner interface where everything is easy to read and find. That and a larger mod matrix and I'll be a happy buyer because this thing sounds like nothing else I own. Easily in my top 5 of unique sounding synths.

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:43 pm

And yet, the question remains... how do you REALLY feel about the interface? Please elaborate.

fisherKing · Post by **fisherKing** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:44 pm

wagtunes wrote:
fisherKing wrote:
wagtunes wrote:Question, is it just me or is the volume on this synth very low? There's no main volume control that I can find and the volume of a pure osc registers like -20 db.
"Master", left side...
Thank you. Again, I just can't find things on this synth. It all blurs together for me. Yes, 58 year old eyes don't help but I don't have this problem with any other synth I own, even the most complex of them. Zebra 2 doesn't give me this much trouble.

All I'm asking for is a cleaner interface where everything is easy to read and find. That and a larger mod matrix and I'll be a happy buyer because this thing sounds like nothing else I own. Easily in my top 5 of unique sounding synths.

much as i understand what you're saying...you can't expect a developer to modify a GUI to suit your needs. you adapt, or...you don't. besides, how much can/would he change? suppose he does rework the GUI, then customers who already own the plugin complain?

as your poll proves, everyone has an opinion. for most people, the plugin is what it is, and they'll get their work done with it...or not.

spend some time with it. be patient. one morning you'll wake up, and arcsyn will look exactly the way it was designed to look...and you'll be making music with it.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:49 pm

ariston wrote:And yet, the question remains... how do you REALLY feel about the interface? Please elaborate.

No, please - we've had enough, pretty, pretty, please, please, pretty, pleeeaasaaaaaaaaahhhhrgggg

Robmobius · Post by **Robmobius** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:56 pm

fisherKing wrote: much as i understand what you're saying...you can't expect a developer to modify a GUI to suit your needs. you adapt, or...you don't. besides, how much can/would he change? suppose he does rework the GUI, then customers who already own the plugin complain?

This is it... Personally, if I was a developer I'd not even raise an eyelid because one person is unhappy. If there were waves of people then it would be a real issue to tackle.

If I remember correctly, at the beginning of the thread somewhere the dev said he might change it at some point. Obviously the first and most important thing is to get this synth out there so people can see what it can do.

So all the people who don't like the interface can wait until a significant update, I just don't see what the big deal is? Why must it be now, just for a few?

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:08 pm

Look, I don't want to get into this again. I've locked the other thread and I just want to move on. But when I have to come here and ask people where the master volume is, there's a problem.

That's all I'm saying.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:11 pm

Just because you couldn't see it? Egocentrism at its finest.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:13 pm

aMUSEd wrote:Just because you couldn't see it? Egocentrism at its finest.

Fine, can we just please drop this?

I'm sorry I couldn't find the volume control.

##@^

Robmobius · Post by **Robmobius** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:20 pm

wagtunes wrote:Look, I don't want to get into this again. I've locked the other thread and I just want to move on. But when I have to come here and ask people where the master volume is, there's a problem.

Errr... Not really accurate that. You had a problem - but I don't think anyone else did to be fair.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:21 pm

OK with me

Back to the sound

Robmobius · Post by **Robmobius** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:36 pm

aMUSEd wrote:OK with me

Back to the sound

Amen... Lets talk about how good the synth is.

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:54 pm

I'm another one that doesn't like the GUI.

So far I haven't read anyone say that they do like it... Only that they can live with it.

While I don't think the poll was necessary nor do I think it provided any insight, I do think conversations on it can be healthy.

When Aether was released there was an equal amount of grumbling over the GUI. It took time, but a new UI was released that was indeed better. I actually liked the original before I was introduced to the improved UI and now I wouldn't go back to it.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:07 pm

elxsound wrote:I'm another one that doesn't like the GUI.

So far I haven't read anyone say that they do like it... Only that they can live with it.

While I don't think the poll was necessary nor do I think it provided any insight, I do think conversations on it can be healthy.

When Aether was released there was an equal amount of grumbling over the GUI. It took time, but a new UI was released that was indeed better. I actually liked the original before I was introduced to the improved UI and now I wouldn't go back to it.

I wouldn't call 11 people out of 36 saying they wouldn't buy the synth because they hated the GUI not providing any insight. I'm 99% positive that the dev is losing a lot of money because of this GUI.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:15 pm

The dev has already confirmed that there will be a new UI eventually, so what's all the wag about anyway?

Robmobius · Post by **Robmobius** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:15 pm

wagtunes wrote:
elxsound wrote:I'm another one that doesn't like the GUI.

So far I haven't read anyone say that they do like it... Only that they can live with it.

While I don't think the poll was necessary nor do I think it provided any insight, I do think conversations on it can be healthy.

When Aether was released there was an equal amount of grumbling over the GUI. It took time, but a new UI was released that was indeed better. I actually liked the original before I was introduced to the improved UI and now I wouldn't go back to it.
I wouldn't call 11 people out of 36 saying they wouldn't buy the synth because they hated the GUI not providing any insight. I'm 99% positive that the dev is losing a lot of money because of this GUI.

He maybe loosing some alright... But I'd say he's selling more than you suspect. Content being king and all.

Anyway, polls like that are highly dubious when it comes to results. Plus, there were quite a few people prepared to buy it whether they liked or disliked the interface.

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