Actually this is a great idea. A number of people have posted "mixer" rack configurations, but they always seem a little cluttered and clunky. If Tracktion included a svelt, prebuilt mixer rack, this would placate the mixer fiends but not offend the Tracktion purists.lharless wrote:do me a favor. open tracktion. look at the screen. look up in the top right corner of tracktion. see the "racks" button? press and press again. see that box opening up? good! imagine a second button beside the "racks" button. this button would open the same window, but it would contain a little mixer of some kind.
tracktion mixer
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flanneljammies flanneljammies https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=19969
- KVRist
- 462 posts since 5 Apr, 2004 from Madison WI
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
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- KVRian
- 1272 posts since 11 Apr, 2002 from Nashville, TN
I think I've had a vision of the Tracktion mixer
and it's something that would be useful to everyone not just a few people. I have to iron out a few details of how it would work but if I get time I'll post a mockup...
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Chester Desmond Chester Desmond https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=83128
- KVRian
- 821 posts since 3 Oct, 2005
To address the original question in this thread, there is a mixer here:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lesitenm/04page ... ixersb.htm
and right below Diapason, there is a template for Tracktion which has a routing example and a rack setup to use it. I have not experimented enough to have an opinion about it though.
I think T3 made a valid point about turning his monitor 90 degrees. Maybe a button that allowed for a vertical view would make it more like a mixer, but this would of course lead to debates about whether the cursor should travel upwards or downwards
A 90 degree turn in thought process might yield the same results!
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lesitenm/04page ... ixersb.htm
and right below Diapason, there is a template for Tracktion which has a routing example and a rack setup to use it. I have not experimented enough to have an opinion about it though.
I think T3 made a valid point about turning his monitor 90 degrees. Maybe a button that allowed for a vertical view would make it more like a mixer, but this would of course lead to debates about whether the cursor should travel upwards or downwards
"The perfect take is the one that felt like it was going to fall apart but never did."
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
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- 27005 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Hehe... because Tracktion does not have something it offers a choice? a peculiar logicvalley wrote:Tracktion offers a choice, and that's what makes it special.xylyx wrote: How does having no mixer make Tracktion 'special'?
- KVRAF
- 27005 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
I feel no need for a mixer in Tracktion. And I agree with those who said they want to see the resources allocated elsewhere.
the value of a vertical mixer is that monitors are wider than tall. my apple wide display could show many more tracks without scrolling if they were arranged vertically rather than horizontally.
This is not an issue for me, but perhaps it would be for someone.
I do sometimes find Tracktion visually confusing when I have a bunch of filters on a track and the vol/pan filter has become so small. I might like to see a button that hides all filters except volume/pan, and which sets them all to a customizable fixed size. This would make it easier to see them at a glance, and edit them. It could be called mix mode button... maybe it could activate the big meters too.
Someone said it... Tracktion IS a mixer.
the value of a vertical mixer is that monitors are wider than tall. my apple wide display could show many more tracks without scrolling if they were arranged vertically rather than horizontally.
This is not an issue for me, but perhaps it would be for someone.
I do sometimes find Tracktion visually confusing when I have a bunch of filters on a track and the vol/pan filter has become so small. I might like to see a button that hides all filters except volume/pan, and which sets them all to a customizable fixed size. This would make it easier to see them at a glance, and edit them. It could be called mix mode button... maybe it could activate the big meters too.
Someone said it... Tracktion IS a mixer.
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Chester Desmond Chester Desmond https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=83128
- KVRian
- 821 posts since 3 Oct, 2005
You pretty much nailed the reasons a mixer is desirable to me: everything is viewable in one place, although I can live without it (and do!). Even a 'big meter view' for outputs would be cool.
A suggestion to get around the visual confusion you mentioned might be to route those tracks to empty tracks at the top with only meters and which could be easily resized together with a right mouse button drag.
A suggestion to get around the visual confusion you mentioned might be to route those tracks to empty tracks at the top with only meters and which could be easily resized together with a right mouse button drag.
"The perfect take is the one that felt like it was going to fall apart but never did."
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- KVRAF
- 3745 posts since 29 Sep, 2002 from Killafornia
Well actually the Tracktion way is where EVERYTHING is viewable in one place, meaning arrangement, mixing, and routing. Its all infront of your face. A mixer would hide part of that.Chester Desmond wrote:You pretty much nailed the reasons a mixer is desirable to me: everything is viewable in one place, although I can live without it (and do!). Even a 'big meter view' for outputs would be cool.
- KVRAF
- 27005 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Chester Desmond wrote:You pretty much nailed the reasons a mixer is desirable to me: everything is viewable in one place, although I can live without it (and do!). Even a 'big meter view' for outputs would be cool.
A suggestion to get around the visual confusion you mentioned might be to route those tracks to empty tracks at the top with only meters and which could be easily resized together with a right mouse button drag.
ahhh... so you mean use some tracks to build myself a......... mixer!
sorry, couldn't resist
thanks for the suggestion, but that is more work than dealing with it as is... cheers
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- KVRist
- 54 posts since 17 Aug, 2005 from Hillsboro OR, USA
The whole "one screen" thing works untill your project get beyond a certian size. I guess if I had a 30 inch flat screen things would fit into one window a whole lot better.AD80 wrote:Well actually the Tracktion way is where EVERYTHING is viewable in one place, meaning arrangement, mixing, and routing. Its all infront of your face. A mixer would hide part of that.Chester Desmond wrote:You pretty much nailed the reasons a mixer is desirable to me: everything is viewable in one place, although I can live without it (and do!). Even a 'big meter view' for outputs would be cool.
And if Tracktion "is" a mixer it's a very badly labeled one. Another thing I really miss from Sonar is that when you expand the view of a track there is a level scale. Having one right on the left side of the track view made it so much easier to see where levels were peaking and such. Same with a mixer view. I like being able to look at where all my output levels are at without having to click on each individual meter filter.
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- KVRAF
- 10815 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from UK
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- 10815 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from UK


