KVR Audio

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:58 pm

audiojunkie wrote:
MattmaN wrote:Well there's Reaper http://www.cockos.com/reaper/
However it's only in the early development stages,but getting about 5 updates a week right now!
So it would be worth downloading anyway just to get used to it so when it's midi specs are sufficient you will have a good grip on it's workflow wich is very good even with basic midi functions.
It will be $20 when it hits 1.0,but at 0.68 as of right now it's freeware.
By no means am I saying it's midi can be compared to cubase.Just pointing out it's one to watch.
I noticed that one earlier. It's by the guy that wrote Muzys, isn't it?

hmmmnnn ... thought it was by the winamp dev myself ...

... if jo had done it id expect something a little MORE ...

slainte

rob

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:37 pm

pHz wrote:
audiojunkie wrote:
MattmaN wrote:Well there's Reaper http://www.cockos.com/reaper/
However it's only in the early development stages,but getting about 5 updates a week right now!
So it would be worth downloading anyway just to get used to it so when it's midi specs are sufficient you will have a good grip on it's workflow wich is very good even with basic midi functions.
It will be $20 when it hits 1.0,but at 0.68 as of right now it's freeware.
By no means am I saying it's midi can be compared to cubase.Just pointing out it's one to watch.
I noticed that one earlier. It's by the guy that wrote Muzys, isn't it?
hmmmnnn ... thought it was by the winamp dev myself ...

... if jo had done it id expect something a little MORE ...

slainte rob

It's not by the guy who wrote Muzys. My mistake.

--Sean

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:48 pm

pHz wrote: ... if jo had done it id expect something a little MORE ...

slainte rob

If you look beyond the somewhat bland gui this sequencer is already FANTASTIC, Rob.

It has almost all the features eXT lacks and vice versa.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:06 pm

There's also BuzzLe - that looks promising

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:23 pm

aMUSEd wrote:There's also BuzzLe - that looks promising

does it really? - I mean if you aren't already a Buzz-user? - Could you please explain... ?

(just downloaded it and had a look for myself... )

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:27 pm

What's to explain?

odo · Post by **odo** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:37 pm

tried buzzle

the sound is much better i think
it`s still beta so i`ll wait when its released
psycle 1.8 is finaly more stable with vst/vsti plugins and it`s easyer to edit you song

muzycian · Post by **muzycian** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:51 pm

audiojunkie wrote:Edit: Actually, this doesn't seem to be the one that I was thinking about. Anyone know the link to the one the Muzys guy was working on?

http://www.mutools.com

And there will be a free version too

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:57 pm

aMUSEd wrote:What's to explain?

how this can be considered promising - i.e. how it can be used for seriously creating music without being enormously limited

in other words: as we have 2006 but not 2001 I think I must be missing something here...

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:50 pm

jens wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:What's to explain?
how this can be considered promising - i.e. how it can be used for seriously creating music without being enormously limited

in other words: as we have 2006 but not 2001 I think I must be missing something here...

Well obviously there are many people who use Buzz and don't find it at all "limiting" or "2001" and there are others like myself who maybe would be interested in alternative approaches to making music and welcome the fact that, unlike the original Buzz, this is still actively in development. Personally I find the tracker aspects frustrating to work with but you don't have to and I have heard great music created in Buzz and there are some great Buzz machines too.

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:00 pm

yes, I absolutely agree - personally I never used trackers but I consider it to be a valid alternative concept nonetheless - that's why I'd call both Renoise and Aodix (not really a tracker though) 'promising' - but there's a world of difference between Aodix and BuzzLe - when Buzz started there was no synth-edit and not many fee vst's (if vst existed at all - not sure about the timeframe

) - but nowadays...

(even if I think that buzzmachines use less cpu for the same algo/function than vst's)

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:03 pm

muzycian wrote:
audiojunkie wrote:Edit: Actually, this doesn't seem to be the one that I was thinking about. Anyone know the link to the one the Muzys guy was working on?
http://www.mutools.com

And there will be a free version too

Thanks! This one looks promising.

--Sean

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:08 pm

jens wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:There's also BuzzLe - that looks promising

does it really? - I mean if you aren't already a Buzz-user? - Could you please explain... ?

(just downloaded it and had a look for myself... )

As I understand it, the source code for the original Buzz software was lost in a hard drive crash a few years back. Hacks have attempted to fix/improve Buzz, but there are massive limitations as to what can be done with this. Buzz le is a complete rewrite, so it will have the benefit of being able to be debugged, having new features, continued development, etc., while still keeping the interface and plugin compatability that Buzz users know and love.

I've never actually used Buzz, but I looked into it not too long ago for fun.

--Sean

insane · Post by **insane** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:09 pm

i said goodbye to all that buzz world,
i was starting to feel the madness with all that plugins , once i loved that soft, in fact , i think i ask sometime buzzmachines support for XT, but now ,and its just an opinion, i really really hope it never happens, ... but its just me, im running away of all that "madness" , i will miss the sequencer , and its that that make me say maybe buzzle will be interesting for some people . Like a post i just read thanking vst´s, thats my way for 2006 , simple host , choose the vsts i need , not many.. and thats it..

DWb · Post by **DWb** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:33 pm

aMUSEd wrote:Personally I find the tracker aspects frustrating to work with but you don't have to and I have heard great music created in Buzz and there are some great Buzz machines too.

*veers off topic* Mneh. I've never understood why the tracker style cursor / numbered patterns approach to fitting patterns into a timeline isn't a standard option for more conventional sequencers. I'm really glad that I've moved to EnergyXT, but I do still miss being able to lay out the skeleton of a tune as fast as I can type...

Oh, and speaking of Buzz, why is there nothing (as far as I've seen) like Geonik's df filter available as a VST?

Right, sorry about that. Back to your scheduled programming.

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