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Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:15 pm

Here we go:

http://www.u-he.com/FilterscapeMac_080107.zip

That should pretty much be the final thing... isn't it?

Urs

HelgeG · Post by **HelgeG** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:06 pm

Thanks. Looks good here.

Superballoon · Post by **Superballoon** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:51 pm

does it have the new XFM supergoodness?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:12 am

Superballoon wrote:does it have the new XFM supergoodness?

That's coming next *after* I had my vacation...

Thing is, the supergoodness isn't a state variable filter. So I gotta tweak it a bit and find ways to make it act like one. Not easy, especially in terms of non-tech-heads. It's gotta make sense, musically...

Oh, speaking FilterscapeVA... will see... that XMF is strictly stereo while FSVA has a monophonic architecture... we'll see...

Urs

umami · Post by **umami** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:06 am

I don't know if this is a bug or not, but if you run a delay in Filterscape, the delay cuts off when you hit stop on the transport in Ableton Live.

tribalogical · Post by **tribalogical** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:44 am

yes, but I still feel great! rawr!

bmrzycki · Post by **bmrzycki** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:22 am

I ran across this thread in the cakewalk forums:

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=1042159

Someone ran a WYHIWYG test on several filters / EQs and posted the results. I was suprised to see Filterscape Q6 marked as having harmonic distortion in the audible range.

Has this been discussed before?

Here are the pics to FSQ6:

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:01 am

Funny! They don't take Q into account? Splendid! So, plugins with default flat settings will show better results. Make the test again with Q set to zero and we have something to discuss (or not). Alternatively set Q of other EQs to equally sounding settings as those of FSQ6 and redo their tests

Urs

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:33 am

Disregard my last post.

I've made the test myself. It looks like above when you neglect the plugin latency. It looks totally different when you add Filterscape's 16 samples of latency. In that case harmonic distortion is at -160 to -200 dB.

Phewwww

Urs

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:40 am

Actually, it's below -180 dB.

Someone should tell them over there...

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:50 am

Here's my measurement:

bmrzycki · Post by **bmrzycki** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:58 pm

Urs wrote:I've made the test myself. It looks like above when you neglect the plugin latency. It looks totally different when you add Filterscape's 16 samples of latency. In that case harmonic distortion is at -160 to -200 dB.

Thanks for clearing this up Urs! I had a feeling something was screwy on the test bench over there. I also saw you posted over there too and I hope that keeps the misinformation down about FS.

I noticed you said any decent host would acknowledge FSQ6's 16 sample latency. How would one know if a host does not? For example, I see no settings in Live's preferences talking to plugin latency, only audio output latency.

Christian Budde · Post by **Christian Budde** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:29 pm

Hi bmrzycki,
the analyser version you used is quite old. That's why it doesn't recognized the latency automatically. What you see in the plot is by no regards harmonic distortion. It's a poor artifact of ignoring the latency. So even if your host doesn't recognize the plugin latency it doesn't mean that you are getting loads of distortion.
Btw. true harmonic distorion would be a thin peak at 2kHz, 3kHz, 4kHz... or you'd get some rumble at low frequencies.

Btw. if you have a look at the time domain you'd see that some samples are accidentially missing. My bad, sorry.

Christian

bmrzycki · Post by **bmrzycki** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:43 pm

Christian Budde wrote:the analyzer version you used is quite old. That's why it doesn't recognized the latency automatically.

Christian, I didn't run the tests above. i used the same pictures posted in the cakewalk forum for Urs to see. Thanks for the info.

Christian Budde wrote:What you see in the plot is by no regards harmonic distortion. It's a poor artifact of ignoring the latency. So even if your host doesn't recognize the plugin latency it doesn't mean that you are getting loads of distortion.

That's good to hear that it's not something that could sneak into a mix when using FS.

I'd imagine any half-decent host like Live or REAPER compensates for plugin latency automatically. I personally haven't heard any harmonic distortion and was a bit surprised bu the cakewalk forum's conclusion.

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