synchrosoft YES or NO

[jamester]

You can't complain about beating a horse to death when you yourself brought said horse into the conversation. And thanks for the snide "blah blah blahs" even though I responded to your point with courtesy and respect.

FTR, I agree about the "theft" paradigm; illegal software sharing is copyright infringement, not stealing as it relates to a physical object. Still doesn't justify the legit purchaser being sadled with intrusive copy protection IMO.

Actually, you brought the horse to the party, with your 10kg car key analogy. Then when I responded in trying to realign the idea with what software devs are actually experiencing you responded with the same old tired diatribe, comparing physical objects to digital media.

Actually, you are confusing me with Mabian:

Would you buy a beautiful car with a key that weights 10Kg, just because the vendor says "with this system it's much more difficult that the car is stolen from our shops"?

I would at least think twice or thrice

- Mario

To which you responded:

If 90% of all the cars on their lot were being stolen they would certainly turn to something worse than a 10kg key

I voted yes - and hope it's a huge deterrent

So actually Mabian is responsible for the horse!

Personally I've said my peace here, there is nothing more for me to add. Linplug will do what it feels is best for its company, and consumers will either agree or disagree with their wallets...

[1-2-Many]

Right jamester, sorry for the mix up

[dougsyo]

I just dont understand how some companies put Syncro on demos. Its baffling to me ..

Peter said that they didn't use Synchrosoft on the demos yet. But I agree, didn't get that one with iLok either.

ILok allows for timed demo unlocks, so you don't have to have a separate installer for the demo vs the final version. I would imagine Syncrosoft does as well.

Now, if a separate version is built for demos, the dongle requirement seems a bit onerous and counter-productive.

Doug, with an unused Syncro dongle he'd prefer to not use again...

[tengotiempo]

i recently reinstalled my system and i wish all my plugins had syncrosoft-protection...
plug in the dongle and there you go.
finding and typing in all those serials took me at least 2 hours

yes ..thats really an advantage.. sometimes they just get lost and i have no idea why ..retyping and copying this number from there to there is shit ..would be more comfortable with syncrosoft...

but what i dont understand is , do u have to be online or the software doesnt work all the time or just for the registration process ?..i mean if u want to go live somewhere, where no internet is and u cant use the software because theres non connection, would be a no go

if it just would be like activating your logic or tracktion or whatever thats cool... i mean , if u install your DAW u have to do the same thing, thats more than ok... but what is , if u want to install on more than one machine

[Feng]

In my opinion, no dongle is better. But if Peter has got to use a stronger copy protection system, Syncrosoft is the best, because you can make whatever changes to your system without having to ask again codes etc.

[1-2-Many]

In my opinion, no dongle is better. But if Peter has got to use a stronger copy protection system, Syncrosoft is the best, because you can make whatever changes to your system without having to ask again codes etc.

True if transferring elicense onto a USB key, maybe not so if using it as it comes - soft elicense written (encrypted) on your hard disk.

[dan_s]

I haven't seen this mentioned, I feel like its a good idea, I know some companies use it.

Why not just have the demos as demos. The full product can be downloaded (i guess this only works for dl only products but ohwell) from the companies secure website w/ your individual passcode which is setup by them so only registered users have actual codes.

that way, they can protect their site and you are entitled to protect your login, should your login be made available they can shut it down it trace it to you.

buh, just by typing it i find a lot wrong with the idea, still, any thoughts?

i feel a dongle (1 dongle) is not a bad idea if all products used it universally and could store multiple registrations on it. i nvever used one before.

in the case of linplug its a elicense, so sucks if your daw isnt online i guess. but for us w/ an online daw, isn't this pretty similiar to NI's stupid registration program?

I have no problem w/ linplugs new licensing, if the products worth it i'll definately do it.

[warbug]

Hypothetically:



Say I own product X and it requires a Dongle and I want to buy product A that also requires a dongle, does each product need its own dongle? Or can I use just 1 dongle for products X, A,Y and so on?

[geroyannis]

I'm pretty sure you can transfer all your licenses to one dongle.

[!jC]

Hypothetically:



Say I own product X and it requires a Dongle and I want to buy product A that also requires a dongle, does each product need its own dongle? Or can I use just 1 dongle for products X, A,Y and so on?

If product X and product A both use the same companies dongle, then yes the authorizations can be put on the same dongle. So lets say X & A are both Syncrosoft, then you are in luck. BUT lets say X is protected by Pace iLok and A is protected by Syncrosoft, then you will be stuck with two dongles. The good thing is that there are really only two *major* players when it comes to dongles used in audio applications - those being Pace & Syncrosoft.

[tonalaxis]

Hypothetically:



Say I own product X and it requires a Dongle and I want to buy product A that also requires a dongle, does each product need its own dongle? Or can I use just 1 dongle for products X, A,Y and so on?

If product X and product A both use the same companies dongle, then yes the authorizations can be put on the same dongle. So lets say X & A are both Syncrosoft, then you are in luck. BUT lets say X is protected by Pace iLok and A is protected by Syncrosoft, then you will be stuck with two dongles. The good thing is that there are really only two *major* players when it comes to dongles used in audio applications - those being Pace & Syncrosoft.

USB HUB springs to mind if you have more than one copy protection system

Also don't forget that Rob Papen is also going down the same path and using Syncrosoft, If more companies go in this direction by using Syncrosoft then thats got to be a good thing.

Anyway how many different Usb Keys are there? I only know of two(Ilok and Syncrosoft) as mentioned above.

Personally I would prefer to have all the LinPlug and RPCX plugins on one USB Key it would save alot of time if my hard drive ever went down.

[djsubject]

i dont really want to go buy a Syncrosoft usb key,

but if i have to i have to

the old days of the usb dongle slowing down your P2 333htz pc are over so IMO the only problem is the price of the dongle & the price to replace a lost or stolen dongle,

IF its simple to recover your license to a new key then it could be worse

if there is a copy protection that improves sales for these DEVs to keep doing what they are doing then it has to be done,

i don't want to buy or use a dongle, but i would rather that than lose all these dev's,

i may not be able to afford many of these great apps but i work in many a studio that dose

beggars cant be choosers as they say

Subz

[xylyx]

Anyway how many different Usb Keys are there? I only know of two(Ilok and Syncrosoft) as mentioned above.

Samplitude uses a different one...Codemeter, I think it's called.

[whyterabbyt]

Anyway how many different Usb Keys are there? I only know of two(Ilok and Syncrosoft) as mentioned above.

altogether, I now have four kinds for different audio apps:

iLok (Cycling74 MAXMSP and Pluggo/Hipno)
Synchrosoft (IK CSR, now deprecated)
WIBU (Reaktor3, deprectated)
Aladdin (Atmogen)

There's at least one other one Im aware of, Sentinel, which can be used in conjunction with software (like Autodesk Maya) which uses the flexlm license manager. Im not aware of audio software using flexlm though.

I also know of at least one application which can be authorised via a specific USB flash drive, which is sort of treated like a dongle. Presumably it authorises to the drive ID.

[ericj23]

does your list include the yellow tools dongle ?

I have to say I look on UADs and powercores as dongles too. YMMV