Multibus Compression - A new plugin

[Dean Aka Nekro]

Something like IK Fairchild and Pultec, which have a clear sonic imprint even without any compression or EQ, should work well with this technique. Of course Nebula is another option which is even more suitable because of all the nice preamp/eq/compressor presets it comes with.

I'm only a bit worried about possible phase issues that can sound artificial and weird in the digital domain (in the analogue domain you get this as well but not to the same degree as PDC gone wrong).

Cheers!
bManic

Yes summing a chain of processors back in the analogue domain to a half-decent console can cover up a multitude of issues which stand out like a sore thumb in the box. Wish i had that luxury here at home...Though a TL Audio TubeTracker M1 is not so far out of my price range if i saved up for six months or so, you know the basic eight channel jobs if i skip on the digital card? I like the EQ section on that range of small consoles also...ah fuxxing hell: there is always something else i require it seems soft and hard may i add.

Nekro/Dean

[Dean Aka Nekro]

give a try compyfox and see if you get any usable result, if not just dont use it. Its all just trial and error much like most signal processing and sometimes something which in theory/on paper appears to be 'unorthodox' works

It wont hurt to give it a go mate, all the best to you

Nekro/Dean

That's what Brauer says he does...tries this and that until he likes what he hears.

Does he, sounds like my sort of guy (doubt that we have the same taste in music though you know me ed!). Trial and error is life in general, so i have always applied the same way of operating whilst creating (or destroying) audio. It would be so boring if there were only one way to skin a cat so to speak IMHO.

Take care mate

Dean

[eduardo_b]

give a try compyfox and see if you get any usable result, if not just dont use it. Its all just trial and error much like most signal processing and sometimes something which in theory/on paper appears to be 'unorthodox' works

It wont hurt to give it a go mate, all the best to you

Nekro/Dean

That's what Brauer says he does...tries this and that until he likes what he hears.

Does he, sounds like my sort of guy (doubt that we have the same taste in music though you know me ed!). Trial and error is life in general, so i have always applied the same way of operating whilst creating (or destroying) audio. It would be so boring if there were only one way to skin a cat so to speak IMHO.

Take care mate

Dean

I agree, but I see numerous threads (plug-ins, music genres) that seek guidance as if the rules are the rules, with replies that reinforce these assumptions. Ignoring the rules, or even not knowing them, can lead to things that aren't likely when staying between the lines...if you will.

[zeep]

Interesting. Would like to throw some mixes at this multibus compressor.

On a side note; Quinto i want to try out your 'Voices' vsti but i can't find a download link. It shows Voices its presets on the Download page but not the vsti.

*edit typo

[quintosardo]

To be more precise, this is the article I started fom when I had the idea for this plugin:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr09/a ... h_0409.htm

(I guess it still isn't free...)

Here the author uses the technique on a single voice track.
This is where I plan to test the tech, not so much on mixes...

[quintosardo]

Interesting. Would like to throw some mixes at this multibus compressor.

On a side note; Quinto i want to try out your 'Voices' vsti but i can't find a download link. It shows Voices it's presets on the Download page but not the vsti.

Voices? My favourite synth

We ask for a simple fast feedback on a song you choose. Just a few minutes...

Scroll down the homepage until you see the Voices box. Everything is described there.

(feedback from around the world is the nicest thing for people recording in our studio. BUT, please DON'T be good. Doesn't need it!)

[mauseoleum]

What I meant was the annoying "everything is piled up around the mids" sound...

I know what you meant. The midrange is where "emotional energy" is, or where "the song" is. I think he goes for "the song". For lack of better words.

[Dean Aka Nekro]

I agree, but I see numerous threads (plug-ins, music genres) that seek guidance as if the rules are the rules, with replies that reinforce these assumptions. Ignoring the rules, or even not knowing them, can lead to things that aren't likely when staying between the lines...if you will.

Your not wrong their mate! and those types of threads are either boring or are a decent pointer for some people whom may need just that as they are just starting out. I myself have no doubt posted on said threads with a generic reply/rule of thumb. However once said people find their feet hopefully they start to progress past these quick fixes and go their own way/question rules, break them and find things out which work for them using their ears as the judge along with following instincts and whatnot...etc

Well, ideally that is what i would like to think happens anyway

[eduardo_b]

I myself have no doubt posted on said threads with a generic reply/rule of thumb. However once said people find their feet hopefully they start to progress past these quick fixes and go their own way/question rules, break them and find things out which work for them using their ears as the judge along with following instincts and whatnot...etc

I suppose knowing the rules offers a jumping off point, but beyond that they can become a road block, although some do take them and twist them into something else without losing the essence of the genre or origin. Extending a genre or style is what sets the creative apart from the emulators.

I see the same with those engineers who become go-to choices. They take the same technology and bring their own creative inspiration to it. This may include a few compressors at a time.

[bmanic]

What I meant was the annoying "everything is piled up around the mids" sound...

I know what you meant. The midrange is where "emotional energy" is, or where "the song" is. I think he goes for "the song". For lack of better words.

Ah ok, I see. I disagree though. For me emotional content is in the way one VARIES the energy content, shifting it from soaring highs to deep lows and piercing high mids. Basically the dynamic flow of a track. This is what annoys me in his mixes, they lack all this.. it's all stuffed in one frequency range and the dynamics quite flat.

For instance, an emotional blues guitar solo uses many different octaves and usually even changes the pickup or inserts a new stomp box between passages to underline and vary the various emotional areas of the solo, instead of sticking to a single tonality throughout.

In the end it is all subjective of course.

Cheers!
bManic

[BASSDRIVE]

I like to chain multiple compressors on my master, but at subtle settings.


Here's my secret:

1.CLAS
2.Soundgoodizer
3.WaveArts Track Plug


Don't ask me why, I just like the results I get.

[Compyfox]

So you use a parallel "set" of these plugins to "alter" the sound.

Guess this is really trial and error, as is that "artifical reverb ambience" project (in the backlogs of OCR). I ask myself if that is really needed, but hey, it is worth a try sometimes. But then again, not on the master bus for me at least.


I can confirm that however with the audio imprint. Sometimes I just run a signal through (gasp) GearBox with the Modern Amp or the UK Amp (Avalon or Neve), while not touching the EQ but the input drive. This alone adds to the sound, same with the Pultronic from G-Sonique.

I definitely gonna try this again with "parallel usage" - but for this I need a good modular host for abuse first - eXT is not giving me any fun as of late (and yes, I'm testing alternatives already).

[eduardo_b]

I definitely gonna try this again with "parallel usage" - but for this I need a good modular host for abuse first - eXT is not giving me any fun as of late (and yes, I'm testing alternatives already).

I've tried it with Reaper -- up to five comps at once, which can be muted as needed to find the "right" combination. It's fun, if not necessarily productive.

[Compyfox]

I could pull this off in Cubase, too. Enough send channels in pre-fader setup should work the same. But that's a hassle IMO. eXT would work wonders as insert plugin - but that thing is still crashing on me like it's nobody's business.

[eduardo_b]

I could pull this off in Cubase, too. Enough send channels in pre-fader setup should work the same. But that's a hassle IMO. eXT would work wonders as insert plugin - but that thing is still crashing on me like it's nobody's business.

What version? I use the last release of 1.4 and it seems very reliable -- it's never crashed or hung.